Much appreciated Col.
I'll pull apart the hub and see what I've left out. :S
All in all it was a very frustrating day today with her.
The original caliper is junk, wouldn't budge, locked good, boot torn and bit of rust showing, doh.
We pulled the virage down and the caliper was compatible. So after giving it a brief clean, we managed to get the piston in and out enough that it made sense to install it on the race car.
Thank you virage.
We then spend about getting at the starter motor. Got the 3 bolts out but couldn't wiggle it free. Ok out comes the heat shield and still no good. Ok, out comes The manifold, oh yeah the engine pipe, ok ok. Oh these are the ones that are hard to get too. Of course.
So all that's out and then still no good. We can clearly see it's now fouling on the engine mount.
WTF batman!
It was getting late and had enough, so start the pack up and back under a tarp it went.
Clios are looking pretty good right now
Using the 15 hub yes. We have either omitted a spacer when we pressed the hub and carrier together, or the disc is just to big (at 20mm new)
And if that s the case, what is the dics from :s.
If they are the rotors you bought from me about 5 years ago they are:
Part No: RDA 343
Dia: 228mm.
Thickness: 20 mm.
6 hole on 100 pcd.
Supposedly for Renault 12 Gordini and R17.
Dare I ask... are the starter motors interchangeable? I.e before I traumatize myself with removing the starter from the automatique' virage, is it even usable on my 1298cc donk?
They are interchangeable, but I would take a look first to make sure they're actually smaller. You can even use starters from 17/15 and possibly others (R16/18 maybe?) but they're all just as big and heavy.
In all honesty though, all starters this age are well past their due date. Get a modern high torque starter from whatever fits or modify and adapt one, it will be a much easier life with that. A starting point would be modern(-ish) Peugeot starters from Mi16/205 stuff like that. I mention these because this is what I have on hand and from a mile away they sort of look like they may be close to fitting. I am sure there's better options and there may even be something which is a direct fit given there's a gazillion starter models in the modern world. Just need to do a bit of research.
If nothing works, you can always find a starter with the correct pinion and throw, and make an adaptor plate to bolt on your 'box. The exercise is not going to be a complete waste of time because you can keep it when you move to the 807 engine.
Maybe ask Frans? R8 starters are similar and he may have found a smaller one already.
The Paris-Rhone starters aren't too bad, but the Bosch starters are larger than the Paris-Rhone starters so you usually have to remover the RH engine mount to get them in or out. That new starter looks way smaller, should be a doddle to refit.Well done, you. From faint memory I didn't think removing the starter was such a bastard of a job on a 12. I hate having to take out lower balljoints more. In fact I always found it easier to take out the lower arm hingepin if it helped.
Well done, you. From faint memory I didn't think removing the starter was such a bastard of a job on a 12. I hate having to take out lower balljoints more. In fact I always found it easier to take out the lower arm hingepin if it helped.
Its the Australian Bosch starter motors that are a pain in the ass to get out. The Paris Rhone and Ducellier types are easy.The Paris-Rhone starters aren't too bad, but the Bosch starters are larger than the Paris-Rhone starters so you usually have to remover the RH engine mount to get them in or out. That new starter looks way smaller, should be a doddle to refit.
Yes, the lower balljoints are a bastard, the driveshafts usually get in the way.
But the original balljoints that were rivetted on would all have been replaced by the bolt-on ones by now so should be easier.