... ours appears to be the oldest aussie ID still around at 6058! The body number (19113713) also seems quite low....
Greetings fellow long stroke enthusiasts.
I would like add my recently acquired ID19 to the list:
Body No:19628726
Series:6431
Colour:222 4320 (Curacao).Currently it is Fjord Blue (A BMW colour).
222 prefix in the colour number refers to the paint manufacturer which was BALM paints (British & Australian Lead Manufacturers) which was a subsidiary of Dulux.
Towards the end of the ID19s being built by C&G the paint No prefix changed from 222 to 225 and this is most probably because the paint manufacturer changed from BALM to SPARTAN paints.
The paint codes 222 6761 & 225 6761 are quite possibly Alpine White as this colour was being used on Peugeot 404s then being built.
It appears that paint code 222 4318 (Angora White) was discontinued at this time.
Regarding the numbering system used by Continental & General.
The Body No was simply the engine number which has been placed on the engine before it left Paris.
The Series number was Continental & General's way of recording what they had built (and imported).
When C&G began assembling ID19's they where already building Peugeot 403's and also a small number of the German NSU Prince.
They were also been importing fully built cars of other makes from both Europe & the US and all of these cars were given a number with the first digit being used to identify the make of vehicle.
For Peugeots the first number used was 7 and when 7999 was reached it was followed by 8.
I have seen a C&G ID plate fitted to a Heidelberg built Peugeot 403B and it is identical to the ones fitted to the ID 19's except that the first digit in the series number is a 7.
The prefix given to the ID19s was 6 so it can be assumed the 1 to 5 had already been used.
After 6999 was reached the next prefix used for the ID19 was 12 so once again it could be assumed that 7 to 11 were already in use.
It has been recorded that Series No 6999 was sold on the 6th of May 1964 so obviously the change from the prefix 6 to 12 occurred shortly before this time however as to exactly when is anyone's guess.
Regarding the model being referred to as a "PARISIENNE" it is most doubtful if this was a factory model designation.
According to a road test on a Paris built id19 published in "WHEELS" magazine in January 1961 the name "PARISIENNE" first appeared in an advertisement for the "new" id19 now being imported from Paris so as to disti
Greetings fellow long stroke enthusiasts.
I would like add my recently acquired ID19 to the list:
Body No:19628726
Series:6431
Colour:222 4320 (Curacao).Currently it is Fjord Blue (A BMW colour).
....
Chassis # 19114730
...and this '64 ID
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Is the red one the ex-Bob King 1960 French ID19? Was John Faine involved with this car?
Bob King also had a late (1966?) Heidelberg car, light blue.
roger
When I bought ex Mike Neil's 1960 French ID, a swag of photos from the original owner were included. With these photos, letters and information told of his experiences driving through Asia , culminating with the car being hoisted onto the ship in Bombay and the arrival in Australia.
My point is; some photos included, were taken by him when he visited the Heidelberg factory in 1964. they clearly show the engine, out of the car being tested complete with cooling system attached. My guess therefore would suggest that the engines were separate from the body, on arrival to Australia.
I must get the details from the Heidelberg "64 ID that came from Hepburn Springs last year and the Heidelberg "60 ID that accompanied a 1960 French ID from a farm West of Bendigo.
They do seem to be coming out of the woodwork lately! Michael
I dont' think the ID here is in the list ...
Am I going to confuse this thread too much if I list all 59 of the DS19 listed in these ledgers with their numbers and original sale dates?
Am I going to confuse this thread too much if I list all 59 of the DS19 listed in these ledgers with their numbers and original sale dates?