Col's Renault R12 Wagon restoration
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I measured the holes for the courtesy light switches on the A pillar and transferred the measurements to the B pillar. The tailgate was a bit of a calculated guessI went through your thread Col. Your marking out for drilling holes looks mm perfect.
When I do em I'm like.
My Alfa 147 was incredible bought with a faulty gearbox, which i replaced.My condolencesMy partner's decision made against my advice was a new Alfa Romeo Giulietta - so I guess not a total loss here
Ten years of reliability and no money spent, other than belts.
In the shed now as i bought a GTV but i like the 147 as it is a much better car.
I hope yours is as good as my one, or better.
So far… Although we are on our third one in 60K kms! First one last 5 months and 1000km - dealer fucked it up and there was a drawn out fight with Fiat Chrysler and the ACCC. Eventually they took it off my hands and gave me a new one. That one last 30K before it was totalled in the 2020 Canberra hailstorm. Insurance ripped us off on the payout and had to tip in 7K to get another new one. Third time lucky
Well, nice to see you back on the 12 Col.
I had to re-read the thread and looking back at your work, I had a thought about the square holes for the bumper supports. I would round the corners a bit to avoid the stress concentration points they create. Even if this means enlarging the holes a bit to give you room to put say a 5mm radius in the corners (that is 1cm overall in both width and height) this will very likely stop the cracks coming back in the future.
I had to re-read the thread and looking back at your work, I had a thought about the square holes for the bumper supports. I would round the corners a bit to avoid the stress concentration points they create. Even if this means enlarging the holes a bit to give you room to put say a 5mm radius in the corners (that is 1cm overall in both width and height) this will very likely stop the cracks coming back in the future.
Made a little progress this week.
Welded on the chassis extensions to take the R18/Fuego style transaxle mounts.
Right side chassis extension
Left side chassis extension
Right side transaxle mount
Left side transaxle mount
Looking from the front
welded up the original holes, need to shorten the outriggers so they do not hit the mount plates and drill a couple of new holes
Welded on the chassis extensions to take the R18/Fuego style transaxle mounts.
Right side chassis extension
Left side chassis extension
Right side transaxle mount
Left side transaxle mount
Looking from the front
welded up the original holes, need to shorten the outriggers so they do not hit the mount plates and drill a couple of new holes
To work out where to drill the new mounting holes in the R18 steel transaxle mounts I decided it would be easier to build a mock section of the NG3 transaxle. So fabricated this "H" shaped section out of wood and drilled holes is it for the transaxle mounts.
Bolted the transaxle mounts to the dummy transaxle section.
Sitting on top the R18 rubber mounts.
Now to mark out the position of the holes and trim the R18 steel mounts to length.
Bolted the transaxle mounts to the dummy transaxle section.
Sitting on top the R18 rubber mounts.
Now to mark out the position of the holes and trim the R18 steel mounts to length.
A bit more progress this week.
Drilled the holes so that the out riggers can be bolted to the transaxle mounts.
Shortened up the out riggers by 22 mm as can be seen from the next three pics. I also removed some of the rough edges from the factory stampings.
Out riggers and dummy transaxle in place.
Need to weld the bracing as I removed those welds when I shortened out riggers as can be seen in the 2nd pic.
Next test is to mount the out riggers onto the NG3 transaxle and sit it in place.
Drilled the holes so that the out riggers can be bolted to the transaxle mounts.
Shortened up the out riggers by 22 mm as can be seen from the next three pics. I also removed some of the rough edges from the factory stampings.
Out riggers and dummy transaxle in place.
Need to weld the bracing as I removed those welds when I shortened out riggers as can be seen in the 2nd pic.
Next test is to mount the out riggers onto the NG3 transaxle and sit it in place.
I think it was off cuts/left overs from fitting out an old peoples home, when I was employed there about 15 years ago.
The pieces were plucked from the skip because I knew they would come in handy one day for such a project. (I think Greenpeace would approve)
NEVER throw that sort of timber away.I think it was off cuts/left overs from fitting out an old peoples home, when I was employed there about 15 years ago.
The pieces were plucked from the skip because I knew they would come in handy one day for such a project. (I think Greenpeace would approve)
Didn't notice the first time around, but how are you going to deal with the NG 'box outdrive/d'shaft problem?
Next question
I have been giving that a bit of thought, I have a few options.
I can replace the NG out drives and sealing system with those from a 352 transaxle or shorten the drive shafts.
I will most likely go shorten the driveshaft route, no doubt it won't be cheap.
Decided to have a trial fit of the NG3 Transaxke today and all lined up perfectly.
Left side outrigger and mount
Right side out rigger and mount
Looking from the front at the bell housing
The rear of the NG3 Transaxle
Anothe pic showing how much the rear protrudes past the hump
looking down on top
Now the next part of the 5 speed conversion with an NG3 Transaxle is to work out how to fit the gear lever and linkages. I have already done a bit of work on the linkages, will post some pics of those later.
It looks like I will have to cut out some more body work and fabricate a system similar to what is in the R18 and Fuego. I originally was going to fit a 395 Transaxle but decided the NG3 would be a better way to go.
Left side outrigger and mount
Right side out rigger and mount
Looking from the front at the bell housing
The rear of the NG3 Transaxle
Anothe pic showing how much the rear protrudes past the hump
looking down on top
Now the next part of the 5 speed conversion with an NG3 Transaxle is to work out how to fit the gear lever and linkages. I have already done a bit of work on the linkages, will post some pics of those later.
It looks like I will have to cut out some more body work and fabricate a system similar to what is in the R18 and Fuego. I originally was going to fit a 395 Transaxle but decided the NG3 would be a better way to go.
Hi Col, your last photo reminded me of the issues I was having registering an R12
with R17 TL mechanicals way back in the 70's.
The clincher that the bodyshell was designed and indeed used for this was the dip
in the crossmember flange to clear the camshaft pulley of a 16/17 engine.
with R17 TL mechanicals way back in the 70's.
The clincher that the bodyshell was designed and indeed used for this was the dip
in the crossmember flange to clear the camshaft pulley of a 16/17 engine.
Very "Renault". Take every opportunity to use things from the parts bin, either with contemporary or future model options.