Which Citroen?

0-60mph in how many seconds? Do you have any more photos? Amazing, never knew a CX could be done up to look so good :eek:

smiffy1071 said:
You forgot to mention it has a full NOS suite, Maikronics, remote oil filter/cooler, large intercooler, it does 140mph in 4th, and is geard to do about 190mph. I gather he had the car Dyno tested at well over 400bhp!!! Here is a pic of CGAT, with Neil's 2 sons.
 
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Uga Boga said:
0-60mph in how many seconds? Do you have any more photos? Amazing, never knew a CX could be done up to look so good :eek:
I do have more pics. The cars seems to change colour depending where the light source is coming from. I will try to fing out its performance, I'll send neil an e-mail.
He has spent about £30,000 over the years on this car!
 

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I know that most of you may know about maikonics, but here's a page about it...http://web.telia.com/~u84003985/CITROEN/CXMOTORTRIM.HTM#Maikonics
It's impressive...but, what i would do, is find a cx2400 with rust all over the place, the most bad looking car, and fit a 2500 motor upgraded...that way, all the people have to say "look at that crappy car, how is it running?" and then you put your feet on the floor and let them stunned :joker:
I like this thing...see it:
"Maikonics uprated Turbo-1 and Turbo-2 engines. They offered a number of options, including replacing the original chip, a competition clutch, uprated intercooler (or an intercooler in the first place for a Turbo-1), and a number of other things. I believe they are no longer modifying CXs. I had my Turbo-1 enhanced many years ago (now long since sold), and their modifications significantly improved performance to 230 bhp and a dramatically improved torque range. I believe their complete set of modifications achieved a performance of 440 bhp on a Turbo-2."

Yeah, 440bhp on a CX...That should be REALLY fast :cheers:
 
Thanks for the details, i'll check it out. What's the max performance do you think i can get out of the CT with a 60k budget? The turbo seems to be more geared towards providing torque then power.

Would it be possible to get a Saxo from the U.K? I've seen some highly modded ones in the U.K... simply amazing.... (350-400HP!)

Paul Smith said:
The CT Turbo is at Damon Beck's in Gladesville 9816 3881 - doesn't say whether it's auto or not though.

Paul
 
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Uga Boga said:
Thanks for the details, i'll check it out. What's the max performance do you think i can get out of the CT with a 60k budget? The turbo seems to be more geared towards providing torque then power.

Would it be possible to get a Saxo from the U.K? I've seen some highly modded ones in the U.K... simply amazing.... (350-400HP!)

Now you're talking! there are many hundreds of heavily modified saxo cars here, very popular with the teenagers! If you can look for either "fast car uk" or "max power" magazine, there are lots of saxo's to be had in the for sale section, that have already been race tuned, and had the body kits added. Well worth a look. And the best bit, £10,000 is the very top of the price range, they nearly all go MUCH cheaper than that. To ship a car to OZ, is about £800, but remember you then have to pay import duty, and GST.
There may be other modifications you have to make it comply with australian laws when the car arrives. john s
 
call me a pesimest but i don't think your going to get the sorts of horse power out of any french engine that you can out of a jap engine so if it's for traffic light debies i'd quit while your ahead, donks like 1jzgte's, 3sgte's, 4age's, rb20's,25's,30's(also in VN Commodores), SR20's, 4age's, and 4agze's ,13b's, and 20b's can take a lot of tuning, and even lightly tuned examples of any of the afermentioned engines are weapons in a straight line(400+ hp isn't hard to obtain on stock internals for a lot of those engines), and all wheel drive skylines when well set up will out handle most most cars including french cars.

if i were thinking about anything as a proposition of getting copious amounts of power out of, i don't know how strong the engines in the GS Birotor is, but that's what i'd be looking at first, rotorys(at least 13b's, and 20b's, and even 12a's to an extent) can cop a huge amount of punishment, but the problem is that they're not a long life motor. A thought would be maybe along the lines of fitting a 13, or 20b into the GS Birotor, but i don't know how easy that would be to do.

Anway, with any citroen you'd be throwing lots of money into a car that you would be getting little reward, and for the dollars you would spend you could get more power out of a car that's easier to get power out of it, and it doesn't nescarily have to be japanese, allthough your comments about Skyline GTR's make little sense, have you ever been passenger in one (i know i have) or driven one ??

you could pick up an R32 GTR for around $25k, and with a nice exshaust, and intercooler upgrade, they're weapons, straight line, or corners, and that's even before you add more boost then what it allready has.
 
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I remember reading an article on how there was one Saxo in Australia... so it must mean it's possible to get them complianced here. I've been looking at some Saxo's in the U.K, amazing stuff... I reckon this would be the route to go, i could purchase one and get it fully modded to the max in the U.K with a 60k budget.
 
Uga Boga said:
0-60mph in how many seconds? Do you have any more photos? Amazing, never knew a CX could be done up to look so good :eek:

I sent an e-mail to Neil the owner/builder of CGAT, and this was his reply...
>
>Never had the thing timed would you believe... but for comparison
>are you familiar with bikes? my brother has a Kawasaki ZX9R and I
>can play with that easily having to back off in the corners or run
>him over ;-) and last year I held a Yamaha R1 upto 100 in a straight
>drag from the lights :) emabarassing for both of us as we
>accelerated up the arse of a police car; not hitting it phew but we
>both went opposite directions errrrr.... quickly!
>
My last bike was a Kawasaki GPz 900, and that was 10 years ago! From what he says, that sounds like 0-100mph in 5 seconds or less? Bloody quick! john s
 
Uga Boga said:
0-60mph in how many seconds? Do you have any more photos? Amazing, never knew a CX could be done up to look so good :eek:

Would you believe apart from the paint that car is basically a bog standard CX2500 GTi Turbo (except for the 'slightly' :rolleyes: modified motor & deisel gearbox).

Here's my bog standard factory car that desperatly needs a coat of paint:

cxfrontafter.jpg


Personally I'd be using a 'big' cit if possiblle rather than a bland little citroen that could look like one of a million cars. Have you ever driven the likes of an SM/CX/DS/BX :confused: They have almost a cult following as there really is nothing else like them.

I've read a bog standard CX turbo is actually as quick as a WRX from 80-120km/h (though I don't know if I believe it myself). A highly modified CX would be a very spectacular car to drive. After you got bored of trying to drag riceboys away from traffic lights (say 5minutes tops), you'll have a brilliant car to cruise the highway in supreme style with :banana: :banana:

If you decide to spend those sort of $$$ on a BX16valve you would have one hell of a quick BX that you could use on sprints & such of a weekend if you like :evil:

Saxo .... what a yawn, you might as well buy a dapoo/Hi-undie :roflmao: :roflmao:

seeya,
Shane L.
 
orestes said:
rb20's,25's,30's(also in VN Commodores)

It's the VL not the VN. VN's had the first 3.8L V6. One of my friends has a VL turbo and has cooked/cracked a head each year of ownership.


Dave
 
Agh, so hard to find a decent BX or CX2500 GTi (Turbo)... I'll probably trying importing one from the U.K, does anyone know any Australian based companies who handle such operations? (I know of heaps who handle importing from Japan)
 
Yes, I've been a passenger in a R33 GTR (Twin-Turbo, 15 pound boost...), it's quite a thrill, but ever since i purchased my first Citroen, i've made a commitment to myself to never buy anything else... you know.

I'd like a similar thrill/drive in a French car (doesn't have to be citroen), i was hoping that would be achieveable by setting a decent budget for this project.

And yes, i wouldn't mind beating a few rice boys at the lights (traffic light derby :banana: ) with a car that would be perceived as a "sleeper".

I just don't know where to get started, or even a specialist who could handle such a project, a BX 16valve (or CX2500 GTi) + 60K, what would be a realistic goal? (what would i be able to get out of the car?)

orestes said:
Anway, with any citroen you'd be throwing lots of money into a car that you would be getting little reward, and for the dollars you would spend you could get more power out of a car that's easier to get power out of it, and it doesn't nescarily have to be japanese, allthough your comments about Skyline GTR's make little sense, have you ever been passenger in one (i know i have) or driven one ??

you could pick up an R32 GTR for around $25k, and with a nice exshaust, and intercooler upgrade, they're weapons, straight line, or corners, and that's even before you add more boost then what it allready has.
 
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Before you splurge and buy why don't you try some of the cars in question. eg: You might try and CX and SM and find them entirly impossible to drive. There bloody brilliant but you really need to drive one for a couple of weeks. A quick spin around the block will be very offputting.

If you have a look around there is always a couple of CX turbos for sale (there still the white CX 2500 GTi Turbo II for sale in Melbourne). Apparantly it needs some tidying up and has poorly repaired rust damage (vastly better than the cars in the UK I imagine though). Infact there's a nicely sorted one for sale here:

http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21074

seeya,
Shane L.
 
...and this, from one who runs a 15 year old XM as his 'sensible' car...

Sensible ...... I run a 20year old turbo charged CX as my daily car ......... The best bit ..... I live in Australia and it isn't air-conditioned :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: I think the heat must be starting to affect my reasoning abilities :evil: :rolleyes:

seeya,
Shane L.
 
Dave said:
It's the VL not the VN. VN's had the first 3.8L V6. One of my friends has a VL turbo and has cooked/cracked a head each year of ownership.


Dave

VL is what i meant, and that sounds pretty wierd for an RB30ET
 
Uga Boga said:
Yes, I've been a passenger in a R33 GTR (Twin-Turbo, 30 pound boost...). Or so my friend says (regarding boost), it's quite a thrill, but ever since i purchased my first Citroen, i've made a commitment to myself to never buy anything else... you know.

I'd like a similar thrill/drive in a French car (doesn't have to be citroen), i was hoping that would be achieveable by setting a decent budget for this project.

And yes, i wouldn't mind beating a few rice boys at the lights (traffic light derby :banana: ) with a car that would be perceived as a "sleeper".

I just don't know where to get started, or even a specialist who could handle such a project, a BX 16valve (or CX2500 GTi) + 60K, what would be a realistic goal? (what would i be able to get out of the car?)


the crazy fellas over at ecosse in the uk claim to be able to get 350hp out of a turboed Mi16 engine according to there site, http://www.ecosse-peugeot.co.uk/show_product.asp?id=1081 which is what's in the BX16V. Ecosse could handle any sort of project related to pugs that you could think of, but they are over in the UK
 
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DoubleChevron said:
Sensible ...... I run a 20year old turbo charged CX as my daily car ......... The best bit ..... I live in Australia and it isn't air-conditioned :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: I think the heat must be starting to affect my reasoning abilities :evil: :rolleyes:
Nope. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me! :cool:
 
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So does anyone know any French (Citroen preferably) specialists in the Sydney area, who i could get in contact with, in regards to handling this project?

macquered said:
 
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