I'm not so sure. In commercials the thirty year old diesels the Victorian Government equips the CFA with are slower than their modern contemporaries but more economical. It was reasonable to expect 6 to 7 litres 100k from a small sedan forty years ago with reasonable performance and no maintenance nightmares. That level of complication is bad, cheap engineering.
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To be fair ... probably 8 -> 10hours over 3 days. I was taking my time. I'd easily do it in half the time if I was to do another. (no searching for stuff or trying to figure stuff out).
Your welcome to come and have a drive of the car. Let me know what you think of what is now quite old diesel technology. This car is what ... 13years old now. Its no 504 diesel, of that I can assure you
Even the 407 that is a version of the same motor, feels like a slug to drive in comparison.seeya
Shane L.
Cars are cars. If regular maintenance operations are made complex and expensive it assures them a short life. And zero sales in the country. I was no fan of the 504 diesel.
Try the DW10F, its successor. A very lively 400 Nm of torque and even better mileage from a 2.0 L engine that also satisfies Euro 6 pollution rules.
There are country Cits that I know of with this engine. It's in some 308s too. When the new rules come in Toyota, Isuzu etc are going to change their engines. They won't be getting WW1 simple.
There are country Cits that I know of with this engine. It's in some 308s too. When the new rules come in Toyota, Isuzu etc are going to change their engines. They won't be getting WW1 simple.
Nearly all modern cars are east/west with a cambelt ..... by modern, I mean anything built this century! Access is going to seriously suck on all of them.
I'm not saying I approve. But if we want everything in the package we currently buy. This is our option.
Not inevitable and not on all east-west engines of the past. It all depends on the brief given to the design team.
Are these addblue? I really like these little diesels. I've had such a good reliable run from them. It just goes .... and goes and goes and goes. I never need to touch it.
the RCZ even has my wife using the cruise control now. She found she was speeding all the time (and not by just a small amount.... proper real speeding
)... so finally figured out the cruise control. Which is identical to her 407 she has owned for 11 years. I never could convince her to use it .... now she uses it all the time in both cars.
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Let me guess ....... its 16mm
The DW10FD in our 308 is great. Enough power and plenty of torque. Exhaust so clean I can wipe my finger inside it and it comes out clean. I was surprised that on a recent trip back from Gosford to Sydney down the M1, with a gal box trailer on the back, and a half tonne of bricks in it, that it kicked down from 6th to 5th coming up the hill from Mooney Mooney bridge with the cruise set to 120km/h. I had thought the torque would have pulled it up in 6th - it never lost speed, just the kickdown surprised me.
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Justin
There was an Edwardian maxim that there can be no excuse for the motor that fails to proceed. The same applies to modern whiz bang engines that need specialist care from a handful of geographically distant dealers. Thank heavens for tilt trays.
Found driving a DW10 very easy to fall in love with , and have noted Demannu's application of one - North/South - to make a Range Rover better. Re-powering an un-original classic with one would not trouble my conscience.
I only have small sample anecdotal evidence, but it would appear that the DW10C diesel is a better bet than a Prado or Hilux diesel for rural owners. At the very least our filters work.
Distant dealers haven't been a problem, as service parts come quickly by courier. Remote only means a day longer.
Common rail diesels are made possible by computerised controls, and it's the electronics more than anything else that baffles those unfamiliar. Pollution rules and efficiency are ending the very expensive though reliable old style HP pump on a simple engine.
Distant dealers haven't been a problem, as service parts come quickly by courier. Remote only means a day longer.
Common rail diesels are made possible by computerised controls, and it's the electronics more than anything else that baffles those unfamiliar. Pollution rules and efficiency are ending the very expensive though reliable old style HP pump on a simple engine.
Yet in practice when a 308 diesel that had moved to a rural area stopped it took many hours to get it to proceed again and nobody in the district could get it to run well again. So the owner took a day off work to take it to the nearest dealer hundreds of k away. The result was unsatisfactory. By then I'd learned not to ask how it was running. The problem was resolved by trading it on a make that had country dealers. Of course it's electronics for anti pollution systems that cause the problems.
A local dealer with the RACV contract had a Citroen come in on a tilt tray. They worked on it all day and it went out the same way.
Toyota had a real problem with their exhausts a few years back but it's been fixed.
It is a brave owner who buys a machine without local service availability. Which is why new Peugeots are rarely seen upcountry.
By the way courier services aren't so hot and parts can take a week. Truck, car or tractor a good local dealer in your own state is an essential part of a long and trouble free service life nowadays.
A local dealer with the RACV contract had a Citroen come in on a tilt tray. They worked on it all day and it went out the same way.
Toyota had a real problem with their exhausts a few years back but it's been fixed.
It is a brave owner who buys a machine without local service availability. Which is why new Peugeots are rarely seen upcountry.
By the way courier services aren't so hot and parts can take a week. Truck, car or tractor a good local dealer in your own state is an essential part of a long and trouble free service life nowadays.
Are other brands dealers that good? I've found it is almost always faster to buy parts in through 3rd parties than to wait for dealers that often have to order in parts from out of the country (as they don't stock slow moving parts locally).
In some fields like tractors you have to rely on dealers. The ideal is to walk into a well stocked dealership and the part appears from the shelves. Ballarat is a major city and you should be able to buy most things off the shelf. The frustrating thing is to buy something you badly need online and the delivery is slow. I desperately needed an 8kva generator and nobody online could guarantee delivery in a week. There are reliable freight operators like Toll and really dodgy ops that use cheap and nasty firms. Try following up a delivery with anyone. Cars aren't perfect, they need good dealers to keep them in service with a minimum of downtime.
Far western Victoria plainly has the "we don't work on Citroens" problem most owners have come across. I know of an older diesel C5 (probably RHR) that was a first for a country mechanic in the north west slopes of NSW. He'd heard the stories but soon found it no trouble at all. He told the owner it was less trouble than another customer's newer Japanese sedan.
The car that was trucked out possibly had one of these obscure electrical problems that use manufacturer specific OBD codes.
I have an admiration for country mechanics. They never know what might come in, and most will work on everything. I visited another one a year or so ago after a relation told me this bloke did his RHH Citroen rego. (He did my then due Citroen rego too, no appointment necessary).
Half the old shed was earth floored, but I was astonished at the variety there or just outside in the yard - a small tractor and a couple of Toyota utes, natch, but on the hoists was somebody's precious 50s Yank Tank and a modern VW. On the benches was an array of transmissions, pumps, small engines and I spotted an outboard. In the back of the driveway the boss was all over the diesel engine of a Volvo prime mover. He told me he accepts whatever the locals bring to him. The boss wasn't young. I don't know how well the young bloke there would go with computer faults.
They had modernised; there was a table and chair in the shed corner with help yourself instant coffee and a jug for those who waited. They had the compulsory computer to log rego stuff, and probably the other things you need now.
The car that was trucked out possibly had one of these obscure electrical problems that use manufacturer specific OBD codes.
I have an admiration for country mechanics. They never know what might come in, and most will work on everything. I visited another one a year or so ago after a relation told me this bloke did his RHH Citroen rego. (He did my then due Citroen rego too, no appointment necessary).
Half the old shed was earth floored, but I was astonished at the variety there or just outside in the yard - a small tractor and a couple of Toyota utes, natch, but on the hoists was somebody's precious 50s Yank Tank and a modern VW. On the benches was an array of transmissions, pumps, small engines and I spotted an outboard. In the back of the driveway the boss was all over the diesel engine of a Volvo prime mover. He told me he accepts whatever the locals bring to him. The boss wasn't young. I don't know how well the young bloke there would go with computer faults.
They had modernised; there was a table and chair in the shed corner with help yourself instant coffee and a jug for those who waited. They had the compulsory computer to log rego stuff, and probably the other things you need now.