it has a mate at Lake Goldsmith....
and the guy also has another Reliant, in bits, with a wheel at each corner
Another strange 3-wheeler there....
there an elderly Morgan as well, no shortage of trikes....
cheers,
Bob
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it has a mate at Lake Goldsmith....
and the guy also has another Reliant, in bits, with a wheel at each corner
Another strange 3-wheeler there....
there an elderly Morgan as well, no shortage of trikes....
cheers,
Bob
NSW annual inspections are not required to go through a full vehicle identity check. That's needed at a new rego.
They confirm the vehicle is the right one by only the last 4 digits of the VIN.
They confirm the vehicle is the right one by only the last 4 digits of the VIN.
That Fergy has 6 wheels, not 3.
Roger
Roger
my older brother in qld is in car club and makes/restores old caravans every couple of years, made one and went and registered it early this year had to stamp his own chassis no on drawbar MOOSxxxxxx, (made out of shit) encountered young lady at Rego office, filled out paperwork handed it in she went and got his plates, your right to go... ummm do you want to come and check vehicle ?.....do i have to do that? walked away short time later with shake of the head...all good and done...... jim
Naah, just marks from grandkids hitting/kicking balls into it...jim
Crikey they're slack in Qld.
Here in a less trusting state....
To get a trailer registration,
You have to apply for a new VIN, showing dockets for the purchase of the bits n pieces, to prove that you are not rebirthing an old (stolen) one.
Some time later you get issued the new VIN, then you have to stamp all the numbers in the chassis, then buy a placard kit (and stamp that) , including the tyre and load specs. Then you have to get it weighed, then you have to get a blue slip inspection, then you have to fix all the defects, like clearance lights, side reflectors, number plate visibility at 45 degrees in any direction..... etc etc and more etc. Like .... the load rating of the tyres needs to match the max trailer mass, and the coupling rating, and the axle rating and the brake rating etc etc and even more etc.
Then you go to the rego office, and pay your money and get the plate.
It's that easy.......
And if you slip up anywhere, you start again at the back of the queue......
Don't ask which queue...?
It's the far queue!
That's a Reiant Rialto, there's at least one in QLD that I'm aware of too, and of course there are several Robins around as well. I believe I have the only REGAL SEDAN in Aust. There are two Regal Supervans that I know of one was last seen in NSW and the other was for sale in Perth.it has a mate at Lake Goldsmith....
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and the guy also has another Reliant, in bits, with a wheel at each corner
Another strange 3-wheeler there....
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there an elderly Morgan as well, no shortage of trikes....
cheers,
Bob
My model Regal came out when EJ Holdens were new, the Rialto is more like a VH Commodore. Reliant made 4 wheelers like the Sabre , Scimitar, Kitten, Fox etc as well as 3 wheel utes and the venerable Bond Bug (there's a couple of Bond Bugs in Aus too, big $). Reliant was a major manufacturer in its day and had production agreements with several other countries.
The yellow one is a Heinkel Kabine, Trojan built them under license in the UK, there's a few around, a number of the ex German war plane companies got in to the car business after WW2. Trojan have an interesting history, they are probably more well known for their light commercials.
I've made a couple of light trailers, the rego process is user friendly in QLD.
I haven't had a vehicle's numbers checked at QLD Transport for close to 20 years. The onus of verifying the ID was put onto the "authorised person" issuing the RWC.
Last one I had checked at Transport was a Morris J van, for some reason the young lady in the short skirt didn't want to crawl underneath and check the chassis number anyway.
"It'll be right" she said and went back inside.
Mmm , I assume both the safety guy and the rego guy/gal "should have gone to Specsavers" when it was first done in NSW? I wear glasses and the letter is very clearly an "S" even without my glasses on.
Checking the whole chassis number would be quite taxing.
Our Service NSW staff (who handle all rego and licence stuff as part of their expanded roles) almost all wear trousers, and let you know that they are in a position of authority, that is not to be questioned.I've made a couple of light trailers, the rego process is user friendly in QLD.
I haven't had a vehicle's numbers checked at QLD Transport for close to 20 years. The onus of verifying the ID was put onto the "authorised person" issuing the RWC.
Last one I had checked at Transport was a Morris J van, for some reason the young lady in the short skirt didn't want to crawl underneath and check the chassis number anyway.
All vehicle inspection (except mobile heavy vehicle inspectors) is privatised now, and the inspectors are often audited. If any oversight in inspection is detected they are penalised with 3 or 6 months suspension of their inspection certification.
As a result many inspectors hide behind their (substantial and ever changing) rule book.
A friend of mine recently had an inspector fail an annual on a trailer that had been registered for 10 years, because the rego papers stated that the gross trailer mass was 2000kg, but the coupling was only rated for 1600kg.
The trailer placard clearly showed the gross mass as 1000kg, but the inspector wanted the papers fixed...
A visit to the "authority" indicated that the process would involve cancellation of the old reg, and a whole new rego process initiated.
Far queue.....
Luckily the first inspector had not filled out a "failed inspection" form, so my friend quietly took it to another inspector who didn't notice the discrepancy.
3 each side.
Most of the authorised persons have no idea of the rules as soon as it's an older vehicle.
I actually got to the point (cos I have lots of old vehicles) where I printed off a 60 page QLD Transport document that itemises when different registration requirements were implemented in QLD (comes in handy with Mr Plod too). Some of the earliest rules date back to the 1930s, visible smoke, high/low beams etc. Handy to have when the RW guy is trying to fail your early 1920s car for not having high and low headlight beams.
Oh FFS, I thought I'd sorted that out... I had the same problem when I bought that Laguna back whenever it was - I bought it from a used car dealer down in Gippsland but for whatever reason I dont remember I had to deal with Vicroads when transferring the rego.
The same argument was had then about the VIN - Vicroads had it on their records as what was on the compliance plate (if my hazy memory serves...) and I think I got them to correct it to what is actually on the chassis. It changed over into Bryce's name ok though I assume? Its whoever was importing them back in those days stuff up (Volvo?) Ignore the tester, go talk to Vicroads.
Even though I've been in Canberra 10 years, I've always kept my cars on Vic rego because its half the cost (registered to home in country Victoria). Out current Alfa that I bought new with NSW plates on it I went to change over last time I was in Victoria and due to a stuff up from the dealer I'd bought it from they hadn't put it in my name (!!) which means I had to get a RWC on a virtually new car. Grr.... I was then introduced to Victoria's new RWC regime with the photos and the insane cost. Wow... Screw that, its got ACT plates on it now, the roadworthy inspection was $70 and 20 minutes. It will get changed to Tasmanian plates next year when we move which is Victorian rego prices anyway.
Apparently now in Victoria if you fail something you dont get to take it back - its a full blown from start check with the full cost. A bit of money grabbing to raise Vicroad's value ahead of it privatisation no doubt...
Apparently now in Victoria if you fail something you dont get to take it back - its a full blown from start check with the full cost. A bit of money grabbing to raise Vicroad's value ahead of it privatisation no doubt...
Some Laguna nostalgia.
Me in it outside the house in Hawthorn (2007, back when my hair wasnt grey), at Woods Point after many many kms of rough as guts roads, halfway through the blue to grey interior swap, and on a tow truck half an hour north of Albury when the fuel pump died... Cruise control from a V6 retrofit using a Xsara vacuum pod and some custom bracketry
Me in it outside the house in Hawthorn (2007, back when my hair wasnt grey), at Woods Point after many many kms of rough as guts roads, halfway through the blue to grey interior swap, and on a tow truck half an hour north of Albury when the fuel pump died... Cruise control from a V6 retrofit using a Xsara vacuum pod and some custom bracketry
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Just before I read the “in it” comment, I was about to ask the one standing behind the car; or the guy sitting in it.
Not quite, you get 2 weeks to fix it before you have to do the full test.
Re: registration bureaucracy - I bought my R20 from a Renault specialist mechanic, I had just written off (rolled while towing a trailer) my R18 wagon and needed a car. He had bought the R20 from a long term customer, and older woman who regularly drove Melb to Sydney and was a bit worried about breaking down in the middle of nowhere in a Funny French car, so she bought a new Commodore and sold the Ren to its mechanic. When I bought the car, he went to Vic Roads to do the change of ownership, turns out the rego hadn't been paid for several years so Vic Roads required a new registration, they wouldn't renew the rego on the car's original plates as it had been unreg for too long. The car had its original rego number etched into the glass when new as an anti theft measure, but Vic Roads wouldn't renew with that rego number, so it got a new rego. The car had never been off the road, just driven unregistered for years, she said the rego renewal never arrived and she hadn't realized.
That R20 was a fantastic car, the mechanic told me later the original owner phoned him and asked if the Ren was still available as she hated the Commodore. By then it was mine.
That R20 was a fantastic car, the mechanic told me later the original owner phoned him and asked if the Ren was still available as she hated the Commodore. By then it was mine.
You can buy the old registration number as personalised plates and give your car its old reigstration number back. You could even put the original plates on it rather than the shiny new ones. You just have to pay the personalised plate fee of $500 or whatever it is nowadays. For some cars (and owners) this might be worth it. I have done this for one car, and am about to do it for another. This requires that no one has claimed it in the interim, which is unlikely unless it is one of the old numbers they have started reusing for general issue, such as the 3 letter, 3 number series starting with A. Given when the R20 came out, I suppose that is possible.
Roger
Roger
Hi Roger
The R20 episode was many years ago - pre-2000. At the time they didn't re-issue old plates. I know they do now.
The plate would have been re-issued by now. AZC996. I may see it on the road one day... I wonder what it will be on?
My 2017 VW is AOK. So AZC would have been re-issued in 2017 or 2018.
My old R20 has almost certainly been scrapped long ago - it had 480000 km on it when I sold it. Still mechanically perfect, but getting some rust. It had enough metal in it to make 3 modern cars.
The R20 episode was many years ago - pre-2000. At the time they didn't re-issue old plates. I know they do now.
The plate would have been re-issued by now. AZC996. I may see it on the road one day... I wonder what it will be on?
My 2017 VW is AOK. So AZC would have been re-issued in 2017 or 2018.
My old R20 has almost certainly been scrapped long ago - it had 480000 km on it when I sold it. Still mechanically perfect, but getting some rust. It had enough metal in it to make 3 modern cars.
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