You'd see the fine "gold" particles I'm sure. Have you checked with a good 10X or 20X hand lens?
EP80 transaxle oil
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I only looked with the naked eye.
Went and look with a magnifying glass (X5) and could not really see much.
Please have a super-close look at what comes out and let us know. What's in there at present?
Yep, full of lovely gold. It's was like I'd been panning for the stuff. Awesome difference. More later, boss has me cooking!!
Hi, what is an energiser spring? I've had this problem many times before because the first time I opened a gearbox, diff, starter etc nobody told me what the stuff is called. I have through the years placed names with parts only because it makes sense and is identifiable. Energiser spring is one of those things that I cannot match. It sounds as if it is that round piano wire spring that kicks the little shoes out that fits into the syncro rings.
If that is the case, why don't we make new ones from a thick piano wire? I would if it was worn down to a danger point.
Regards, Frans.
Yep, full of lovely gold. It's was like I'd been panning for the stuff. Awesome difference. More later, boss has me cooking!!
What oil was in it?
That is the spring Frans. If piano wire has the right hardness and "springiness", why not I guess?
I can't remember and I didn't jot it down at the time. When it was time to fill it with gear oil, I went over to Doug the mechanic and asked if I could use his oils on a trolley. Ray recommended what it needed and so I asked Doug what has he got and so I filled it with what I was given. But it now has VMX80 and I noticed a positive difference straight away.
I did note that the drain plug being magnetic had about a finger tip of filings stuck to it.
I took the old oil to Doug for an opinion and he shone a light into the oil to show all the gold flecks. We talked about the requirements of the older gearboxes and API 4 & 5. I mentioned this thread/talk about G Oils. He agreed that the VMX80 is correct. I'll buy a little notebook and start to note the requirements and service schedule for my car.
Eek indeed! Good you changed it.....
The oil that I was running previously was Valvoline 75W80, but can't remember which one it was or what spec it was as I don't have any used oil containers laying around.
I ran it for years and never had a problems and can't remember any large amounts of metallic particles in the oil when I drained the transaxles.
I ran it for years and never had a problems and can't remember any large amounts of metallic particles in the oil when I drained the transaxles.
You certainly notice if the oil comes out like dilute gold paint.....
Agree, it is not a subtle effect. Have seen it twice.
I remember once painting pretty pictures with the gearbox oil in the tray, much like coffee art.
The particles are very fine and stay suspended in the oil, oblivious to gravity in the short while.
Jo
And if you mix it you see the flakes swirling like metallic paint.
Hi all, have come across this thread whilst researching what transmission oil to get for my new daily. The car is a R12 TS with a R17 1647cc engine with a mild cam fitted in the late 80s, I believe by Collier’s. As the car is now getting on and much more power going through the box than standard I don’t want to mess around with an inferior oil.
Castrol Classic EP seems to be out of stock everywhere I have looked online, not so keen on VMX as some have had success and others not. Am leaning towards Red Line Lightweight Shockproof or Red Line 75W90NS GL-5 ( yes it’s a GL-5 but the blurb says it is fine for synchros and meant for transaxles). As before Red Line don’t say anything about Lightweight Shockproof in synchro box’s.
What is everyone’s updated opinion on this much discussed topic.
Had to read the thread a few times to digest it all
Castrol Classic EP seems to be out of stock everywhere I have looked online, not so keen on VMX as some have had success and others not. Am leaning towards Red Line Lightweight Shockproof or Red Line 75W90NS GL-5 ( yes it’s a GL-5 but the blurb says it is fine for synchros and meant for transaxles). As before Red Line don’t say anything about Lightweight Shockproof in synchro box’s.
What is everyone’s updated opinion on this much discussed topic.
Had to read the thread a few times to digest it all
This thread is two years old, if it helps I still have the VMX80 in the transaxle of my R17TL powered R12. The transaxle is still working fine.Hi all, have come across this thread whilst researching what transmission oil to get for my new daily. The car is a R12 TS with a R17 1647cc engine with a mild cam fitted in the late 80s, I believe by Collier’s. As the car is now getting on and much more power going through the box than standard I don’t want to mess around with an inferior oil.
Castrol Classic EP seems to be out of stock everywhere I have looked online, not so keen on VMX as some have had success and others not. Am leaning towards Red Line Lightweight Shockproof or Red Line 75W90NS GL-5 ( yes it’s a GL-5 but the blurb says it is fine for synchros and meant for transaxles). As before Red Line don’t say anything about Lightweight Shockproof in synchro box’s.
What is everyone’s updated opinion on this much discussed topic.
Had to read the thread a few times to digest it all
I've had the Redline Lightweight Shockproof in two transaxles for several years now. It seems fine. One of our folk uses it in a racing BMW gearbox and he reckons it is fine and has dropped the temperature quite a bit. That's why I tried it. I honestly wouldn't know whether it has made a difference but do know nothing has gone wrong!