Car History

Yeah, l get they're old. I worked in cars for a lot of my life. Besides, I have my eyes on a RCZ.
Modern cars ... they are kinda like appliances to me .... the classics.... I think its because they are so compromised is a lot of ways, that they appeal so much.

The RCZ I quite like for a modern car. I dont' complain about the stupid clown wheels, or the, er, "firm" ride. Its being sold as a sports car, so your expectation should be "firm" ... its quite agile for something that is a heavyweight (my idea of a sports car is old ... light ... not much power ... probably quite crappy, but a lot of fun while its working).
We only have the one here.... 'cos my wife wanted it ... I didn't realise until quite some time after we got it ... they are actually quite an impressive handling vehicle


Nothing I could ever use obviously, the extremes of its handling are so far outside anything I could play with on a public road, that they would never be used. In a lot of ways an 80's hot hatch ... .or even a 2cv is a lot more fun, as you can push it right to its limits and have fun. Something as competant as these modern cars.... I'd be a smudge across the nearest tree if I tried :blackeye:

I've been watching some of the RCZ's that come up for sale... most seem to have done 40 -> 80,000km ... even though they are quite old. I'm after the diesel, every one that comes up for sale ... seems to have 250,000+kms on it. so people after drivers rather than toy cars, must buy the diesel :)
 
Modern cars ... they are kinda like appliances to me .... the classics.... I think its because they are so compromised is a lot of ways, that they appeal so much.

The RCZ I quite like for a modern car. I dont' complain about the stupid clown wheels, or the, er, "firm" ride. Its being sold as a sports car, so your expectation should be "firm" ... its quite agile for something that is a heavyweight (my idea of a sports car is old ... light ... not much power ... probably quite crappy, but a lot of fun while its working).
We only have the one here.... 'cos my wife wanted it ... I didn't realise until quite some time after we got it ... they are actually quite an impressive handling vehicle


Nothing I could ever use obviously, the extremes of its handling are so far outside anything I could play with on a public road, that they would never be used. In a lot of ways an 80's hot hatch ... .or even a 2cv is a lot more fun, as you can push it right to its limits and have fun. Something as competant as these modern cars.... I'd be a smudge across the nearest tree if I tried :blackeye:

I've been watching some of the RCZ's that come up for sale... most seem to have done 40 -> 80,000km ... even though they are quite old. I'm after the diesel, every one that comes up for sale ... seems to have 250,000+kms on it. so people after drivers rather than toy cars, must buy the diesel :)
My Merc Mates and me think the same. New cars are fridges. Funny thing. In 1960 buying a fridge was a bigger impost on the family budget than say buying a new Mazda 6 is now.

Houses have gone up an average of 30x since 1975. Petrol has only gone up 4x in the same time period. That puts the 'collective societal whinge' about the cost of things into perspective
 
I'm afraid I'll definately miss some and there's no way I'll remember the order of purchase (or the year of manufacture) so I'll go first letter alphabetically and best guess the year if I can't remember.🤷‍♂️
Current vehicles have a ● next to them.

55 Austin A30 Datsun engine ●
64 Austin Healy Sprite 2A
61 Austin Freeway wagon
61 Austin Cambridge Mk11 lowrider
72 Austin Kimberley
24 Bean 14 speedster supercharged
94 BMW 318i
95 BMW 328i convertible
85 Commodore VK wagon 3.3 LPG
89 Commodore VN 3.8 LPG
77 Citroen GS
71 Citroen D Special ●
99 Citroen Berlingo ●
74 Chrysler by Chrysler CJ 360
78 Chrysler Sigma 2.0
77 Chrysler CL wagon 5.3 V8
78 Chrysler CM 4.3 ELB
11 Chery J3
75 Datsun 120Y
77 Datsun 120Y
75 Datsun 180B SSS worked engine
68 Dodge truck 225 slant 6
97 Daewoo Leganza
99 Daewoo Matiz
90 Daihatsu Charade 1.0 3 cyl
89 Daihatsu Mira 850 3 cyl
72 Ford XA GS Falcon wagon 302 (then worked 351)
62 Ford XL Falcon sedan 144
61 Ford XL Falcon ute 200
75 Ford XB Falcon hardtop 302
83 Ford XE Falcon 4.1 LPG ex cab
99 Ford AU Falcon 4.0
81 Ford Bronco worked 4.1 LPG
81 Ford F100 tray back 4.1 LPG
66 Ford Mustang coupe worked 302 W ●
65 Ford F250 tray back worked 351 C ●
72 Ford F100 ambulance 300 six ●
72 Ford TC Cortina XL 4.1
75 Ford TD Cortina 2.0
77 Ford ZH Fairlane Marquis 351 C
72 Ford Transit tray back 161 red motor
72 Ford Mk1 Escort 1300
89 Ford Econovan MWB 2.0
89 Ford Telstar 2.0
89 FSM Niki
91 FSM Niki
72 Hillman Hunter Safari wagon worked 1725 then Datsun engine
68 Holden HK Premier worked 307 then worked 283
74 Holden HQ Monaro worked 253 then worked 202
71 Holden LC Torana panel van worked 186 then worked 202
71 Holden LC Torana worked 173
73 Holden LJ Torana 1300
04 Holden Astra
66 Honda S600 convertible worked Datsun 1000 engine
07 Hyundai Tucson 2.0
89 Hyundai Excel
89 Lada Samara worked 1300
92 Lada Niva worked 1600
94 Lada Sable 1500
73 Leyland Mini worked 1275 ●
75 Leyland Mini 998 ●
53 Morris Minor worked 1000 engine
49 Morris J van supercharged A15 Datsun engine
62 Morris Mini panel van 850 slow as f#ck
69 Morris Mini worked 1275
77 Mercedes 280SE
84 Mercedes 180E
85 Mitsubishi Sigma high roof wagon 2.6
89 Mitsubishi TN Magna wagon 2.6
94 Mitsubishi Starwagon 2.4
72 Mazda 1200 coupe 1300 and 5 speed
94 Mazda 121
90 Mazda 121
84 Nissan Bluebird 2.0
68 Nissan Junior tray back 179 red motor
15 Nissan Juke 1.6 turbo
83 Nissan Prairie 1.5
87 Nissan Pintara wagon
83 Perentti supercharged 400 Chev
63 Pontiac Laurentian 283
68 Peugeot 404
72 Renault 16TS
74 Renault 16TS
67 Rambler Rebel supercharged 318 Chrysler engine
68 Rover P6 2000 TC
72 Rover P6B supercharged 3.5 V8
79 Rover SD1 worked 3.5
57 Rover 90 P4 modified 2.6
26 Rover 9/20 supercharged
68 Reliant Regal supercharged 850 ●
89 Suzuki Super Carry Van 1.0
04 Smart For2
57 Studebaker Commander 259 V8 ●
89 SAAB 900 Turbo modified
89 Subaru Rex JDM supercharged 550 4 cyl
77 Subaru Leone
84 Subaru Leone
78 Toyota Cressida 2.6
93 Toyota Corolla 1.6
83 Toyota Corolla 1.3
99 Toyota Echo 1.3
99 Toyota Starlet 1.3
65 VW Beetle 1.3
71 VW Porrera 1.6 modified
73 VW Superbug 1.6
78 Volvo 240DL 2.3
84 Volvo 760GLE Turbo modified
67 Valiant VC Regal 225
69 Valiant VF Pacer worked 225
69 Valiant VF hardtop worked 318
74 Valiant VJ ute worked 273 V8
64 Vauxhall Viva
62 Wolesley 24/80

Bikes
75 Aermacchi 350SS (AKA Harley Davidson)
50 CZ 150 Kawasaki engine conversion
72 CZ 175 trail
72 Deckson Hunter 125
54 DKW RT250 Honda engine conversion
24 Douglas 2 3/4 Honda engine conversion ●
76 Honda XL70
76 Honda SL70
77 Honda XL75
68 Honda S90
68 Honda CT90
75 Honda CT90
82 Honda CT110
99 Honda CT110
06 Honda CT110
04 Honda CBR125R
74 Honda CB125
73 Honda XL125
74 Honda CB175
89 Honda XL185 250 engine swap and sidecar ●
84 Honda XR 200
78 Honda CB200
86 Honda CT200
00 Honda VT250C Magna
80 Honda CB250
73 Honda CB250
85 Honda XR350
74 Honda CB350/4
72 Honda CL350
72 Honda CB450
74 Honda CB500 Twin
78 Honda CX500
79 Honda CX500
80 Honda CX500 Custom
82 Honda CX500
86 Honda XL600
83 Honda CX650 Custom
74 Honda CB750
78 Honda CB750F2 836 kit ex show bike
82 Honda CB750
78 Honda CB900
71 Harley Davidson XL1000 Sportster
71 Harley Davidson Servicar ●
73 IZH Jupiter 350
72 Jawa 250
49 James Comet 8hp Briggs conversion
72 Kawasaki KV75
76 Kawasaki KM90
78 Kawasaki KE100
81 Kawasaki KE100
81 Kawasaki KH125 ●
74 Kawasaki KE175
78 Kawasaki Z200
77 Kawasaki Z250
81 Kawasai 440LTD
83 Kawasaki GT550
78 Kawasaki Z650
77 Kawasaki Z750 twin
14 Laro 250
18 Orion 250 ●
07 Piaggio 250 MP3
06 Pagsta Roadsta 50 fitted with 70 racing kit
13 Skyteam Ace 125 ●
73 Suzuki RV90
75 Suzuki TC100
81 Suzuki TS125
79 Suzuki PE175
83 Suzuki TS185
78 Suzuki GT185
60 Suzuki TA250 Colleda ●
79 Suzuki GT250 X7
70 Suzuki T350 Rebel
72 Suzuki T350J Rebel and sidecar
78 Suzuki SP370
74 Suzuki GT380
82 Suzuki DR500
68 Suzuki T500 Cobra
71 Suzuki T500 Titan
74 Suzuki GT550
78 Suzuki GS550
85 Suzuki GR650
81 Suzuki GS850G and sidecar
78 Suzuki GS1000
60 Triumph 3TA 350 chopper
72 Triumph Daytona 500
74 Triumph Bonneville 750
06 Triumph Rocket 111 2300 modified ●
66 Yamaha YL1 Twin Jet 100
80 Yamaha DT175
79 Yamaha IT175
82 Yamaha SR185
85 Yamaha AG200
81 Yamaha SR250 modified
82 Yamaha XT250
82 Yamaha RD250 LC
80 Yamaha XV250 Virago
86 Yamaha XV250 Virago
74 Yamaha RD350
74 Yamaha DT360
81 Yamaha SR500
90 Yamaha XV535 Virago
77 Yamaha XS750
81 Yamaha XV750 Virago
80 Yamaha XS850
78 Yamaha XS1100
88 Yamaha XV1100 Virago
86 Yamaha VMX1200 (V-Max) full power import

I know I've missed some, every time look over the list something twigs my mind and I add another.🙄
In my defence I haven't bought a car or bike for 6 months now.🤷‍♂️
Yep clean for 6 months, and the shakes are finally subsiding.😉
Can l ask a question about your sanity? You've bought Harleys but No BMWs, No Ducati's! Huh?
 
Modern cars ... they are kinda like appliances to me .... the classics.... I think its because they are so compromised is a lot of ways, that they appeal so much.

The RCZ I quite like for a modern car. I dont' complain about the stupid clown wheels, or the, er, "firm" ride. Its being sold as a sports car, so your expectation should be "firm" ... its quite agile for something that is a heavyweight (my idea of a sports car is old ... light ... not much power ... probably quite crappy, but a lot of fun while its working).
We only have the one here.... 'cos my wife wanted it ... I didn't realise until quite some time after we got it ... they are actually quite an impressive handling vehicle


Nothing I could ever use obviously, the extremes of its handling are so far outside anything I could play with on a public road, that they would never be used. In a lot of ways an 80's hot hatch ... .or even a 2cv is a lot more fun, as you can push it right to its limits and have fun. Something as competant as these modern cars.... I'd be a smudge across the nearest tree if I tried :blackeye:

I've been watching some of the RCZ's that come up for sale... most seem to have done 40 -> 80,000km ... even though they are quite old. I'm after the diesel, every one that comes up for sale ... seems to have 250,000+kms on it. so people after drivers rather than toy cars, must buy the diesel :)
I saw that video. The RCZ did well. The one i know of has the 150kw engine
 
I'm afraid I'll definately miss some and there's no way I'll remember the order of purchase (or the year of manufacture) so I'll go first letter alphabetically and best guess the year if I can't remember.🤷‍♂️
Current vehicles have a ● next to them.

55 Austin A30 Datsun engine ●
64 Austin Healy Sprite 2A
61 Austin Freeway wagon
61 Austin Cambridge Mk11 lowrider
72 Austin Kimberley
24 Bean 14 speedster supercharged
94 BMW 318i
95 BMW 328i convertible
85 Commodore VK wagon 3.3 LPG
89 Commodore VN 3.8 LPG
77 Citroen GS
71 Citroen D Special ●
99 Citroen Berlingo ●
74 Chrysler by Chrysler CJ 360
78 Chrysler Sigma 2.0
77 Chrysler CL wagon 5.3 V8
78 Chrysler CM 4.3 ELB
11 Chery J3
75 Datsun 120Y
77 Datsun 120Y
75 Datsun 180B SSS worked engine
68 Dodge truck 225 slant 6
97 Daewoo Leganza
99 Daewoo Matiz
90 Daihatsu Charade 1.0 3 cyl
89 Daihatsu Mira 850 3 cyl
72 Ford XA GS Falcon wagon 302 (then worked 351)
62 Ford XL Falcon sedan 144
61 Ford XL Falcon ute 200
75 Ford XB Falcon hardtop 302
83 Ford XE Falcon 4.1 LPG ex cab
99 Ford AU Falcon 4.0
81 Ford Bronco worked 4.1 LPG
81 Ford F100 tray back 4.1 LPG
66 Ford Mustang coupe worked 302 W ●
65 Ford F250 tray back worked 351 C ●
72 Ford F100 ambulance 300 six ●
72 Ford TC Cortina XL 4.1
75 Ford TD Cortina 2.0
77 Ford ZH Fairlane Marquis 351 C
72 Ford Transit tray back 161 red motor
72 Ford Mk1 Escort 1300
89 Ford Econovan MWB 2.0
89 Ford Telstar 2.0
89 FSM Niki
91 FSM Niki
72 Hillman Hunter Safari wagon worked 1725 then Datsun engine
68 Holden HK Premier worked 307 then worked 283
74 Holden HQ Monaro worked 253 then worked 202
71 Holden LC Torana panel van worked 186 then worked 202
71 Holden LC Torana worked 173
73 Holden LJ Torana 1300
04 Holden Astra
66 Honda S600 convertible worked Datsun 1000 engine
07 Hyundai Tucson 2.0
89 Hyundai Excel
89 Lada Samara worked 1300
92 Lada Niva worked 1600
94 Lada Sable 1500
73 Leyland Mini worked 1275 ●
75 Leyland Mini 998 ●
53 Morris Minor worked 1000 engine
49 Morris J van supercharged A15 Datsun engine
62 Morris Mini panel van 850 slow as f#ck
69 Morris Mini worked 1275
77 Mercedes 280SE
84 Mercedes 180E
85 Mitsubishi Sigma high roof wagon 2.6
89 Mitsubishi TN Magna wagon 2.6
94 Mitsubishi Starwagon 2.4
72 Mazda 1200 coupe 1300 and 5 speed
94 Mazda 121
90 Mazda 121
84 Nissan Bluebird 2.0
68 Nissan Junior tray back 179 red motor
15 Nissan Juke 1.6 turbo
83 Nissan Prairie 1.5
87 Nissan Pintara wagon
83 Perentti supercharged 400 Chev
63 Pontiac Laurentian 283
68 Peugeot 404
72 Renault 16TS
74 Renault 16TS
67 Rambler Rebel supercharged 318 Chrysler engine
68 Rover P6 2000 TC
72 Rover P6B supercharged 3.5 V8
79 Rover SD1 worked 3.5
57 Rover 90 P4 modified 2.6
26 Rover 9/20 supercharged
68 Reliant Regal supercharged 850 ●
89 Suzuki Super Carry Van 1.0
04 Smart For2
57 Studebaker Commander 259 V8 ●
89 SAAB 900 Turbo modified
89 Subaru Rex JDM supercharged 550 4 cyl
77 Subaru Leone
84 Subaru Leone
78 Toyota Cressida 2.6
93 Toyota Corolla 1.6
83 Toyota Corolla 1.3
99 Toyota Echo 1.3
99 Toyota Starlet 1.3
65 VW Beetle 1.3
71 VW Porrera 1.6 modified
73 VW Superbug 1.6
78 Volvo 240DL 2.3
84 Volvo 760GLE Turbo modified
67 Valiant VC Regal 225
69 Valiant VF Pacer worked 225
69 Valiant VF hardtop worked 318
74 Valiant VJ ute worked 273 V8
64 Vauxhall Viva
62 Wolesley 24/80

Bikes
75 Aermacchi 350SS (AKA Harley Davidson)
50 CZ 150 Kawasaki engine conversion
72 CZ 175 trail
72 Deckson Hunter 125
54 DKW RT250 Honda engine conversion
24 Douglas 2 3/4 Honda engine conversion ●
76 Honda XL70
76 Honda SL70
77 Honda XL75
68 Honda S90
68 Honda CT90
75 Honda CT90
82 Honda CT110
99 Honda CT110
06 Honda CT110
04 Honda CBR125R
74 Honda CB125
73 Honda XL125
74 Honda CB175
89 Honda XL185 250 engine swap and sidecar ●
84 Honda XR 200
78 Honda CB200
86 Honda CT200
00 Honda VT250C Magna
80 Honda CB250
73 Honda CB250
85 Honda XR350
74 Honda CB350/4
72 Honda CL350
72 Honda CB450
74 Honda CB500 Twin
78 Honda CX500
79 Honda CX500
80 Honda CX500 Custom
82 Honda CX500
86 Honda XL600
83 Honda CX650 Custom
74 Honda CB750
78 Honda CB750F2 836 kit ex show bike
82 Honda CB750
78 Honda CB900
71 Harley Davidson XL1000 Sportster
71 Harley Davidson Servicar ●
73 IZH Jupiter 350
72 Jawa 250
49 James Comet 8hp Briggs conversion
72 Kawasaki KV75
76 Kawasaki KM90
78 Kawasaki KE100
81 Kawasaki KE100
81 Kawasaki KH125 ●
74 Kawasaki KE175
78 Kawasaki Z200
77 Kawasaki Z250
81 Kawasai 440LTD
83 Kawasaki GT550
78 Kawasaki Z650
77 Kawasaki Z750 twin
14 Laro 250
18 Orion 250 ●
07 Piaggio 250 MP3
06 Pagsta Roadsta 50 fitted with 70 racing kit
13 Skyteam Ace 125 ●
73 Suzuki RV90
75 Suzuki TC100
81 Suzuki TS125
79 Suzuki PE175
83 Suzuki TS185
78 Suzuki GT185
60 Suzuki TA250 Colleda ●
79 Suzuki GT250 X7
70 Suzuki T350 Rebel
72 Suzuki T350J Rebel and sidecar
78 Suzuki SP370
74 Suzuki GT380
82 Suzuki DR500
68 Suzuki T500 Cobra
71 Suzuki T500 Titan
74 Suzuki GT550
78 Suzuki GS550
85 Suzuki GR650
81 Suzuki GS850G and sidecar
78 Suzuki GS1000
60 Triumph 3TA 350 chopper
72 Triumph Daytona 500
74 Triumph Bonneville 750
06 Triumph Rocket 111 2300 modified ●
66 Yamaha YL1 Twin Jet 100
80 Yamaha DT175
79 Yamaha IT175
82 Yamaha SR185
85 Yamaha AG200
81 Yamaha SR250 modified
82 Yamaha XT250
82 Yamaha RD250 LC
80 Yamaha XV250 Virago
86 Yamaha XV250 Virago
74 Yamaha RD350
74 Yamaha DT360
81 Yamaha SR500
90 Yamaha XV535 Virago
77 Yamaha XS750
81 Yamaha XV750 Virago
80 Yamaha XS850
78 Yamaha XS1100
88 Yamaha XV1100 Virago
86 Yamaha VMX1200 (V-Max) full power import

I know I've missed some, every time look over the list something twigs my mind and I add another.🙄
In my defence I haven't bought a car or bike for 6 months now.🤷‍♂️
Yep clean for 6 months, and the shakes are finally subsiding.😉
I'm impressed not a single Italian motorised vehicle 🙈🙉🙊
 
I'm thinking the original reference by Armidillo was that I'd bought/sold and bought the Berlingo back again??🤔
Correct.
But if Shane thinks the berlingo is not a real Citroen, then why not 2 cits + 2 pugs + 2 rens? 🤔
 
I'm impressed not a single Italian motorised vehicle 🙈🙉🙊
The Nikis are a poor cousin though, and the Lada Niva did had a Fiat copy engine.
Strong praise indeed.🤔
I did do a deal for a Fiat Topolino (with my older brother) once, but he backed out of it before I could pick it up.
It was very original, but tired, and I think he realised there was a pretty fair chance it would end up looking like this.😁

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Can l ask a question about your sanity? You've bought Harleys but No BMWs, No Ducati's! Huh?
I keep looking at Urals, they're nearly a BMW.😉
The Ducatis I like have always been a bit more than I want to spend, same with Laverdas.🤷‍♂️
I did a deal on a Moto Guzzi once that was down the coast, but the guy sold it before I could pick it up.😡
 
1955 Holden FJ Special
1970 Peugeot 404
1970 Bolwell Mk.7 (unfinished kit)
1974 Fiat 124 Sport (in Singapore)
1974 Citroen GS (in Singapore)
1973 Ford Cortina (in Singapore)
1974 Citroen GS
1980 Mitsubishi Sigma (company car)
1970 Peugeot 504
1984 Holden Commodore VK (company car)
1986 Holden Commodore VL (company car)
1976 Range Rover
1986 Ford Falcon XE (company car)
1989 Mitsubishi Magna (company car)
1991 Holden Commodore VN (company car)
1984 Peugeot 505 SRD
1996 Holden Commodore VS (company car)
1985 Peugeot 505 SRD
1978 Lada Niva (farm hack)
1986 Peugeot 505 GTI
1998 Peugeot 406 HDi
1970 Rover P5B Coupe
1987 Range Rover HiLine
2006 Kia Rio
 
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I'm thinking the original reference by Armidillo was that I'd bought/sold and bought the Berlingo back again??🤔

that would probably be perfect. Where could you ever use the extra power on a public road ?? The main thing I'd want is a proper gearbox. Its can't possibly be a sports car with a slugomatic (even if they are actually faster these days, there just not fun!)

I'm deeply impressed iwth the way the diesel version drives. I don't quite understand how, but the motor blips like a petrol motor ( did they forget to fit a big heavy flywheel??) and it nothign like a diesel to drive. The only reason you'd like notice is the limited rev range.
 
the Kangoo diesel gets itself into top gear ASAP, and runs westwards over flagstaff hill at Linton in cruise without shifting down - not bad for a little 1.5l. Dunno how it behaves in fun mode - turn off the eco-switch and move the gear lever to manual... I've never bothered, probably means I'm getting old.... :)
and no adblue.... :headbanger"
Bob
 
Wow, I prostrate myself to a superior ownership history 👏
What we’re you thinking with the two Fords…😊
The first one I was given by my father, an ex taxi with 400k on it. I kept it for a year and gave it back to my Dad. I think he got $600 more for it than it was bought for because I had improved it.

The Futura BA wagon I bought from the government auctions, 18 months old, 43k, think it owed me $15600 fully registered. It was great. No failures, towed OK, comfortable, sold it at 185k as my wife asked that we have a manual car for my stepson to learn to drive in. We had manual cars, just none we wanted him to be learning in, so bought the 08 Megane. Otherwise I would have kept the Falcon.
 
I have a 2003 BA Falcon XR6 Turbo ute as a run around car and tow vehicle. Cost me $6000 at auction plus it needed new tyres all round. Has been great and goes like the clappers. Reading "Just Cars" at Bob Janes when getting new tyres and an article was about common things that go wrong with a BA - headlining drops - tick, bonnet cable on the inside breaks - tick. Apart from those issues, it has been great for towing my Alpines, taking stuff to the tip and general shopping. Now it is worth more than I paid for it - bonus.
 
I have a 2003 BA Falcon XR6 Turbo ute as a run around car and tow vehicle. Cost me $6000 at auction plus it needed new tyres all round. Has been great and goes like the clappers. Reading "Just Cars" at Bob Janes when getting new tyres and an article was about common things that go wrong with a BA - headlining drops - tick, bonnet cable on the inside breaks - tick. Apart from those issues, it has been great for towing my Alpines, taking stuff to the tip and general shopping. Now it is worth more than I paid for it - bonus.
yeah I think I paid $800 bucks for the shitbox. Shannons wouldn't insure it for less than $16K :confused: the car market went nuts there for a while. I'm thinking $6k is about right.
 
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