How many CX's in Australia?

Andy N

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Hey guys, Just wondering how many CX's are getting around and if anyone has an estimate of how many were sold here initially? I hear that Bruce H has a register. If so, are the results able to be viewed somewhere?
They really are a great car and I hope their true worth is realised soon!
:cheers: Andy
 
As fas as WA goes I would say their are about 40-50 left on the road & maybe up to 150-180 lying around. (3 at my place & 4 previously amongst family/friends) :D ) This is just a guess-timate from what I have seen over the past 10 years or so. :cheers:
 
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Personally I think there's bugger all of them left on the road.

I've probably spotted one CX on the road (other than mine) in the last 2years.

The numbers that remain seem to have rapidly declined over the last 5years. They are simply getting old and not many people want to spend $$$ and a car with faded paint and cremated interior (as that is where you could spend HUGE $$$$ getting a car to look nice). Say you spent $5,000 on a paint job, and the same again getting the door trims and seats recovered ... You'd have a car you'd strugggle to sell and get offers of $500bux while everyone tells you it's worthless :rolleyes:

Personally if I needed a car, I'd pay good money for a CX, but it would have to be a good one. An enthuiest owned well kept car. Not a specialist serviced dog that "comes with $20,000 of receipts".

seeya,
Shane L.
 
zykyra said:
As fas as WA goes I would say their are about 40-50 left on the road & maybe up to 150-180 lying around. (3 at my place & 4 previously amongst family/friends) :D ) This is just a guess-timate from what I have seen over the past 10 years or so. :cheers:
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Thanks Zyk
I saw some pics of your DS's at Cit in WA. I really love Ds and I have yet to have a ride in one.
I love my CX too and I think it rides very good now that the spheres are gassed up....though I imagine a D would be even softer.

I really don't understand why CX's are so undervalued at present, and it seems that many Cit owners have a few lying around rusting away.
If you look at it this way: put a VN crumbabore next to a CX each worth $5000 (great condition for both) and the CX is absolutely a better car in every respect. It has to be a very good one though.
Mine has been recently tuned and it can keep up torque-wise with the old 3.8 carby V6 if worked well.
Alan showed me how my car can be driven and I was quite surprised by what it can do and how sweet it sounds building up the revs to 4000.
If there are about 50 on the roads in WA, I wonder if there would be any more than 100 for NSW and VIC combined?
It is a high task to get one of these to run on a daily basis but no more than anything else of the same age.
Regards, Andy
 
Andy N said:
Thanks Zyk
I saw some pics of your DS's at Cit in WA. I really love Ds and I have yet to have a ride in one.
I love my CX too and I think it rides very good now that the spheres are gassed up....though I imagine a D would be even softer.

I really don't understand why CX's are so undervalued at present, and it seems that many Cit owners have a few lying around rusting away.
If you look at it this way: put a VN crumbabore next to a CX each worth $5000 (great condition for both) and the CX is absolutely a better car in every respect. It has to be a very good one though.
Mine has been recently tuned and it can keep up torque-wise with the old 3.8 carby V6 if worked well.
Alan showed me how my car can be driven and I was quite surprised by what it can do and how sweet it sounds building up the revs to 4000.
If there are about 50 on the roads in WA, I wonder if there would be any more than 100 for NSW and VIC combined?
It is a high task to get one of these to run on a daily basis but no more than anything else of the same age.
Regards, Andy
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The last few french car days I've been to have had a total of one or two CX's at them.... The one being mine :rolleyes: The 2nd is usually that silver CX with Delta alloy wheels that's been a members car for years.

seeya
Shane L.
 
I love the CX estate....
 

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I love the CX estate....
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Fantastic reply Daniel up to the standard we have come to expect.

In Canberra I have seen 3 on the road, mine, a white Gti and an immaculate looking bronze one going the other way unfortunately. 3 that I know of stashed around the place in driveways etc, one face to face with an SM.
 
Daniel,

Don't mind me asking, but where did the gollywog fit into the story about a CX? :confused: :crazy:

Not somehow connected to the bimbos in the avatar by any chance? :cancan: :cancan: :cancan: :cancan: :cancan:


Alan S :adrink: :nownow:
 
No its just me losing it from stress at work thats all.....:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
 
my impression is that there are more in nsw than elsewhere - the CX would be a hot car in may parts of Oz. there were quite a few at the French Car Day here in Sydney 2 years ago (missed last year but going this year). I went to the Brisbane French Car Day about 4 yrs ago - there were quite a few there. BTW - the Brisbane show is held at a great location on the University lawns.
At the car show in Utrecht in May there were heaps of them - many different models incl turbo-diesel long wheel base versions.
In Oz I think a high number of C-matics were sold new - there would be official stats somewhere.
I agree that they get dropped by their owners because of frustrations over what really are little things to an experienced CX mechanic.
I spent heaps of time on my C-matic with assistance from this forum - only to find it wrapped around the power pole down the hill when I returned from Amsterdam! It is back in my garage, and I am gradually pulling it apart - I mean there are a lot of expensive parts on these cars if one plans to stay with CX's. I have found an excellent replacement and I am really going to look after it - no risk of sudden death up against power poles for her!
 
I use my white '79 CX2400 GTI 5 speed as my daily driver and have done so for the last 10 years (on and off between breakdowns). It mainly contends with Sydney roads and traffic and the occasional trips to Blue Mountains, Canberra. I also use it to tow trailer loads. I had the engine overhauled about 5 years and the car has been quite reliable since then and very cheap to run and insure.
Yes, sadly we don't see many CX's on the road now.
Hydraullically,engine wise and mechanically the car is quite good with minimal faults. The only ongoing issue ( and common to all CX's) is the never ending battle with rust. I currently have Michelin TRX's on it and can't really fault them apart from the cost and availability. They are wearing okay but suffering cuts on the sidewalls i guess ffrom rocks or something. I am using regular unleaded which seems fine. It sometimes pings (or pinks) when going up the hill on the Great Western Highway at Lapstone.
Problems currently being experienced include both front indicator lights always failing and requiring a gentle thump to get them working. I have cleaned the wires and contacts but they keep failing. The door locks also don't work properly and I can't lock it properly.
The boot is hopeless for carrying stuff. The car is a great cruiser on the road carrying 4 people, but where on earth do you put their luggage!!!!!
All in all I'm very happy to keep using it as my daily driver. Whilst the RTA keep letting me register it I'll keep using it. When it fails the inspection it's usually routine stuff such as rusted muffler or tyres etc.
I do most of the basic maintenance on it myself which helps keep costs down too, and have a ready supply of various spare parts.
Also own a CX2400 C-matic wagon, but much prefer the gti saloon.
I've been thinking about what I'd replace it with when the time comes. Out of all the models Citroen are currently offering for sale in Australia, I've narrowed my choice down to two models. Berlingo---just for its practicality and economy, and C4--- a better daily car, big enough for me and looks great. Maybe a C6 in 5 years time when they deprciated to more affordable prices.
 
IIRC CXs were sold under the < 100 per year rule to avoid all kinds of ADR issues. So there weren't many to start with compared to say 504s of that era, and both combined were outsold perhaps 20:1 by the "tank" Volvo 240 series.

Barry.
 
Thanks for the replies.
Gembee's talk on CX's was particularly interesting considering every point mentioned about the GTI occurs in my car as well :roflmao:
Do you know that I replaced a bulb a while back on one of the front parking lights and was surprised that the other one stopped working. I gave it a little tap and wammo! The wiring for the rear set also comes apart sometimes :rolleyes:
My boot currently has the spare in it so any tools, oils, car cover, etc takes up the rest of the space. It's a great boot for loading things in at that height but is not at all 'roomy' considering the size of the car.
I picked up a car cover from supercheap yesterday and it appears to be good. It was $30 and has elastic and adjustable straps as well as a piece to lock into the boot. Best of all is that the material is breathable so it may fix that issue I hear so often about CX's rusting even more with covers because water is trapped.
I'll be using it up at Thredbo for 4 months so I need it to save me from having to scrape ice off every morning.... and keep the car dry I hope!
Andy
 
Andy N said:
Hey guys, Just wondering how many CX's are getting around and if anyone has an estimate of how many were sold here initially? I hear that Bruce H has a register. If so, are the results able to be viewed somewhere?
They really are a great car and I hope their true worth is realised soon!
:cheers: Andy
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Hi Andy, I have only seen 2 other CXs around Melbourne lately. There's a blue one that I photographed . I had a chat to the owner who says he has another one that he's currently working on. It's not on the road yet.
My silver one has just run out of rego, and is not worth renewing because....1. oil leaks. 2. rear swing arm bearings need replacing. 3. exhaust needs replacing. 3. body needs major restoration, rust removal, repainting etc. 4.Interior needs complete replacing. 5. Windscreen needs replacing.
It's otherwise ok, but uneconomical to restore.

The RED CX is getting closer to being registered. The day I get it on the road, I will post a short report , with pictures. Then there will be one more CX on the road.
Cheers....George 1/8th. :cheers: :cool:
 
You know here in the UK where CX's are much more plentifull, they are still an extremely rare sight! in the last 2 years, not counting special events, and pre-arranged meeting with other CX owners, I have only seen 3 CX's on the road, and NEVER when I'm in mine!!! In fact, the only time I saw annother CX while I was in mine, was when I went to Holland for the Citromobile show!
I can't wait for next years event, I had no idea it was really an auto-jumble for older citroen cars, so I will take a lot more euros with me!!! hmmmm, spare AEI unit, spare injection computer, spare ABS computer, all BRAND NEW!!! would be worth shane popping over!!! john s
 
Hey, I can see now that it would be most difficult to get an actual number for how many CX's there are actually left. :rolleyes:
A simple question but impossible to answer, but perhaps there is someone that may know how many 2400 c-matic's were sold here?
The reason why I asked the question is that I found myself saying that "there are probably only about 100 CX's running on the roads in Australia now". I still think that I am not too far off the mark and there are probably 4 times as many wasting away in backyards in various bits and pieces.
I know I have a rare car but not sure just how rare....if it was a scotch fillet it would be on the uncooked side of things, right? :confused:
mmmm, time for me breakfast I thinks.
Andy
 
Andy N said:
Thanks Zyk
I saw some pics of your DS's at Cit in WA. I really love Ds and I have yet to have a ride in one.
I love my CX too and I think it rides very good now that the spheres are gassed up....though I imagine a D would be even softer.

I really don't understand why CX's are so undervalued at present, and it seems that many Cit owners have a few lying around rusting away.
If you look at it this way: put a VN crumbabore next to a CX each worth $5000 (great condition for both) and the CX is absolutely a better car in every respect. It has to be a very good one though.
Mine has been recently tuned and it can keep up torque-wise with the old 3.8 carby V6 if worked well.
Alan showed me how my car can be driven and I was quite surprised by what it can do and how sweet it sounds building up the revs to 4000.
If there are about 50 on the roads in WA, I wonder if there would be any more than 100 for NSW and VIC combined?
It is a high task to get one of these to run on a daily basis but no more than anything else of the same age.
Regards, Andy
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What 3.8 carby motor is that?
Graham
 
Andy N said:
Hey, I can see now that it would be most difficult to get an actual number for how many CX's there are actually left. :rolleyes:
A simple question but impossible to answer, but perhaps there is someone that may know how many 2400 c-matic's were sold here?
The reason why I asked the question is that I found myself saying that "there are probably only about 100 CX's running on the roads in Australia now". I still think that I am not too far off the mark and there are probably 4 times as many wasting away in backyards in various bits and pieces.
I know I have a rare car but not sure just how rare....if it was a scotch fillet it would be on the uncooked side of things, right? :confused:
mmmm, time for me breakfast I thinks.
Andy
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I'd say maybe 100 aussie sold CX's on the road, possibly as many as 30-50 GTi Turbos hidden away never to see daylight, maybe 1dozen wagons, and 1/2dozen deisel sedans.

Not many would still be in daily use I imagine (due to how hot they are in summer).

seeya,
Shane L.
 
G'day
In response to Graham and Shane, firstly I wrote 3.8L carby perhaps by mistake. It sounds like you are going to tell me that there wasn't one, so if the first VN Commodore came with an EFI engine I am gladly corrected and happier still to know that I can overtake the bastard!
I am getting a little tired hearing the cliche about CX's being too hot in Summer.
I do however find it hilarious that the air inlet is situated in a spot that has almost zero airflow due to the aerodynamic shape. I have seen a plastic scoop added to a couple of CX's to improve this but only slightly. I have no problem with driving with the window/s down and I think many of you guys hold the car in league with many modern cars.
If you think about it, it wouldn't be to hard to increase ventilation by moving the air inlet to the front of the vehicle using an additional pipe if needs be.
Don't let it stop you buying one though. I am not an engineer and even I could improve this but I don't think it needs it just yet.
And even though the air-con doesn't work in mine, it once did so why couldn't you make it work again? Or better...please don't answer the last one as there are too many comments (I did a forum search) that will say that the air-con should be thrown out completely. And lots of comments simply saying that the rear spheres are incredibly difficult to take off....but how do you take them off so it isn't difficult? :rolleyes:
Cheers for listening to my rant :2cents:
Andy
 
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