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Never had an issue with it jumping out of gear.
The lever may buzz and vibrate a bit more than normal, but it's hard to tell - it's on a race car with no carpet, trim, etc. so the whole car is louder and rougher than normal.

-Victor
 
I think the casing is the same, the cover on the back of the box (toward the front of the car) is just deeper to contain the 5th gear.
I can snap a pic of the 2 side by side tomorrow.
 
sublimate said:
I think the casing is the same, the cover on the back of the box (toward the front of the car) is just deeper to contain the 5th gear.
I can snap a pic of the 2 side by side tomorrow.
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so where is the cover from? an r8g five speed? or custom made? or some other box?

cheers! peter
 
4cvg said:
so where is the cover from? an r8g five speed? or custom made? or some other box?

cheers! peter
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You could use the cover from an R8G 5-spd to make 5-spd, but that seems pretty pointless since you already have a 5-spd. :)
The cover (and internals) from a R16-TX or R5-Alpine works fine. I think you can also use a R12, R18, or Fuego with some extra work (including flipping the crown wheel over to the other side so it goes in the right direction).

Below, from right to left, are a 4-spd box, 5-spd box, Estafette box from a Matra d'Jet, and a random later 5-spd in yellow:
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Here's a close-up of the 5-speed (left) and 4-speed (right) - you can see the case is the same, just different end caps.
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I think you will find that theres also a spacer plate between the box and the deeper end caseing, you can see it in the multi box pic, pugs
 
sublimate said:
Use could use the cover from an R8G 5-spd to make 5-spd, but that seems pretty pointless since you already have a 5-spd. :)
The cover (and internals) from a R16-TX or R5-Alpine works fine. I think you can also use a R12, R18, or Fuego with some extra work (including flipping the crown wheel over to the other side so it goes in the right direction).

Below, from right to left, are a 4-spd box, 5-spd box, Estafette box from a Matra d'Jet, and a random later 5-spd in yellow:
View attachment 45046

Here's a close-up of the 5-speed (left) and 4-speed (right) - you can see the case is the same, just different end caps.
View attachment 45047
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greetings, fellow Djet-owner, that's good news about the A5 as that's a box I have.

now, concerning the 329 djet box, as you realise from the ROCoNA site, I'm after one (or an Estafette box) for my Djet; I don't suppose that one's for sale is it?

cheers! Peter
 
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As I previously mentioned, the 5 speed box was built by Richard Mann and I have asked his advice on the matters you raised and will get back to you.
 
As I mentioned previously, the gearbox was built by Richard Mann and he has advised the following:

"The main gearbox case (the two halves) is a type 330 BUT there are few differences over the years.

The early 330 was fitted to the R8, and is generally painted green. It has a unique gear selection system. The fingers of these selectors are shared with the early 5 speed boxes, so good to hang onto these old boxes for another 5 speed donor. These boxes use 8mm balls and small springs to create the detent between gears. The small springs often break.

The R10 uses a 330 but has revised gear selection fingers.

The R10S is the best box because it uses 10mm balls and springs for the gear shift detent. The R10S has a boss on the side where a reverse light switch can be fitted. It also has an improved bellhousing which better supports for the clutch throw -out bearing.

The casing for the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] gear is unique to the 5 speed. In your case it came from Simon Auto, but I think it originates from Mecaparts.

The gearbox internals are from the 385 fitted to the R5 which originated in the R16TX. It has a bigger diff and output shafts. The 330 casing needs to be relieved to fit the crown wheel.

So to build a 5 speed you need

1 x R8 box
1 x R10S box
1 x R16TX/R5 box
1 x new end housing"
 
bazzamac said:
As I mentioned previously, the gearbox was built by Richard Mann and he has advised the following:

"The main gearbox case (the two halves) is a type 330 BUT there are few differences over the years.

The early 330 was fitted to the R8, and is generally painted green. It has a unique gear selection system. The fingers of these selectors are shared with the early 5 speed boxes, so good to hang onto these old boxes for another 5 speed donor. These boxes use 8mm balls and small springs to create the detent between gears. The small springs often break.

The R10 uses a 330 but has revised gear selection fingers.

The R10S is the best box because it uses 10mm balls and springs for the gear shift detent. The R10S has a boss on the side where a reverse light switch can be fitted. It also has an improved bellhousing which better supports for the clutch throw -out bearing.

The casing for the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] gear is unique to the 5 speed. In your case it came from Simon Auto, but I think it originates from Mecaparts.

The gearbox internals are from the 385 fitted to the R5 which originated in the R16TX. It has a bigger diff and output shafts. The 330 casing needs to be relieved to fit the crown wheel.

So to build a 5 speed you need

1 x R8 box
1 x R10S box
1 x R16TX/R5 box
1 x new end housing"
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Excellent, thank you. Peter
 
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