1951 203 for sale

Russell Hall

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I wonder if the 203 in the for sale section really does have 400mm tyres given the Australian hub caps. My favorite hub cap, the 1952 domed knock on.
 
$10,000 seems a fair price in my humble opinion, based on what I can see and read. Would cost a lot more to fully restore one.....
 
I wonder if the 203 in the for sale section really does have 400mm tyres given the Australian hub caps. My favorite hub cap, the 1952 domed knock on.
That is a 1952 model. Looks like they have fitted the wrong tyres to the 16 inch wheels.
 
Yes, no sunroof. The 400mm tyres were always much rarer and more expensive in Australia. The few cars with imported 400mm rims usually have the French hubcaps. It's unlikely any tyre fitter would force 400 mm tyres onto 16 inch rims.
 
You can read the "400" on the sidewall towards the bottom of the RH front tyre. Cool car.👍
 
hi
i know the car .it belong to a nsw club member who passed away recently .it looks better in the flash than the photos show.
it does have metric tyres that he got new about 4 years ago from Europe. the owner tried to keep it original as possible.
only the water temp gauge is not original.even the trafficators are working.the
car worth more than what they are asking as it is very original.
ron
 
? local hubcaps on french wheels ?
firewall has a tag next to hinge on passenger side, no C&G or H&J i recognise
and square heater delete cover ? N3Y sans toit ouvrant ?
makes an interesting discussion so i know i will learn ( or at least be reminded of ) something here ... and about time too
 
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It does come up as a late 1951, 1206 when change over to the 52 is 1211 in October so probably August/Sept with an Australian sale date of 1952. Not local assembly at that time. I remember talking about tyre options with Antique Tyres. 16 inches equals 406.4 mm. They said you could force a 400mm tyre onto a 16"rim but it was not an approved practice. By doing that he would have been able to buy 155 Michelin X whereas the 16"Michelins we buy are 175. When the 203 was released here the spec list put the tyres as 5.50/16 but later changed to 5.25/16 for the sedans. The 175 is the same (5.50) the wagons ran here. Not a lot of clearance on full lock but satisfactory. So he was keen on originality. Can't make anything out from that plate.
 
$10,000 seems a fair price in my humble opinion, based on what I can see and read. Would cost a lot more to fully restore one.....
You're darn right there Dano......How about north of $55K in Poubelle's case? I still think it was worth it though!
 
I'm not sure about the condition of the clutch given that the driver in the video appears to be constantly riding it.
 
I'm not sure about the condition of the clutch given that the driver in the video appears to be constantly riding it.
By the looks of it he has his foot on the pedal but no pressure and probably as he isn't familiar with the car is keeping his foot close just in case he needs to hit the brakes in a hurry
 
It does come up as a late 1951, 1206 when change over to the 52 is 1211 in October so probably August/Sept with an Australian sale date of 1952. Not local assembly at that time. I remember talking about tyre options with Antique Tyres. 16 inches equals 406.4 mm. They said you could force a 400mm tyre onto a 16"rim but it was not an approved practice. By doing that he would have been able to buy 155 Michelin X whereas the 16"Michelins we buy are 175. When the 203 was released here the spec list put the tyres as 5.50/16 but later changed to 5.25/16 for the sedans. The 175 is the same (5.50) the wagons ran here. Not a lot of clearance on full lock but satisfactory. So he was keen on originality. Can't make anything out from that plate.
Originally the car had 16 inch wheels, never ever seen a 203 with 400s.
 
By the looks of it he has his foot on the pedal but no pressure and probably as he isn't familiar with the car is keeping his foot close just in case he needs to hit the brakes in a hurry
Didn't have the right action with the gearshift either, plenty of crunching.
 
You're darn right there Dano......How about north of $55K in Poubelle's case? I still think it was worth it though!
Oh yeah. $6500 so far and the car hasn't even been stripped yet... Just buying goodies to undertake the task!

Mate, Poubelle looks fantastique!
 
just noticed in the more better facebook photos - it runs the original block, i.e. matching numbers, FWIW
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no idea what this signifies
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donor
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Neither Basil Moran's 1951 or my car have such a stock no. plate so perhaps Harden &Johnston?
 
Merely the diligence they are due, Dan.
Had I misunderstood N3Y to denote berline luxe ( as opposed to berline d’affaires ) and hence a sunroof is missing? The donor has one, I think …
 
The berlline dáffaires lacked trafficators and heater. Not many were made. The car in question will have an N3Y body rather than the N3V of the 1952. The sunroof was an option that the Australian importers specified for 1950 and 1951. It was not popular in Australia and the importers dropped it for the cars ordered from late 1951 that were sold in 1952. It was not offered as an option on Australian assembled cars until the 504 LTi because it adds complication to the assembly job and increases costs. The 1952 sedan is relatively rare because of import restrictions and a disproportional percentage of wagons/commercials ordered for 1952.
 
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