The revival of a 1937 302

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Tadpole
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Last year I reached the decision that unless large sums of money fell from the sky, my 1915 Peugeot type 153A project was beyond my resources and capability if it was ever going to be finished in my lifetime, so I sold it, and looked for something else interesting to replace it with. Of course, any intelligent person would have just finished the 1928 Renault and been satisfied. But not me...

I had always wanted a 1930s Sochaux Fuseau- styled Peugeot. Ideally a 302 or 402. I had tried a friends post-war 202 here and while it was a cute little thing, it really was a bit too small and gutless for me. However I then drove a friends 1937 202 in France and it won me over as it seemed quite happy buzzing around at 100 km/h and I started looking around. It was immediately obvious that a decent 402 or 302 was outside my budget, so with help from my French 202, Renault KZ and Citroen C4X mate the search got serious . I had almost decided on an unrestored but totally complete 202 in Nantes, when I saw an ad which caught my eye for a 302. The photos were of a very dirty and dusty car, clearly just dragged out of a barn. The ad just said it was complete, in good condition but the engine was seized. The price was a little higher than I was hoping to pay for a car but it was close enough to message Dominic and ask him his thoughts.

He responded within a minute. He had seen the ad and was wondering how long it would take me to find it, and what did I want him to do? I wanted him to ring the seller and find out a bit about the car. Half an hour later I got anther message. The car had been purchased by the late father of the seller, and the family were reducing the size of his collection, the 302 was surplus to requirements. It had last been registered in Paris in 1970 and their father had bought it in 1973, taken it from Paris and taken it back to where he lived, 60 km from Lyon, put it in a shed where it had sat ever since. It was totally complete with the exception of the inside light lens, as far as they knew, nothing had been touched, modified or butchered and it hadn't moved since 1973 apart from being take out to take photos prior to sale and if I checked my email, a file with 113 photos of the car front front to back bumper, top to bottom, inside and out was waiting for my inspection.

Several hours were spent pouring over the photos, then trawling the internet to see what I should know about a Peugeot 302. At the end of the exercise, sadly I could see no good reason not to continue with my enquiries. More messages back and forward to France (Facebook messenger has very much become my friend!) and a day later Dominic asks what I want to do now? Between us we had decided that assuming the car we had photos of was the car which was for sale, it looked to be an excellent buy. Not wishing to start an international incident or mortally offend the seller I had to ask what was the norm in France. Was the asking price the price, or is it like here where one enters into delicate negotiation with the vendor to meet at a mutually acceptable price? It turns out the French do enjoy a good bartering session. Dominic suggested what he thought would be a fair price and 24 hours later a deposit was paid and I was the owner of a 1937 Peugeot 302 Berline Luxe, on the opposite side of the world.


This is how it looked when I got my first glimpse of it

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You got the block repaired just a few days ago, yes? New sleeves going in?

Being resleeved right now. It should be ready to pick up on Tuesday. Hoping to have the motor back together next weekend. We are not looking forward to putting it back in. It's a shit of a car to work on - by far the most difficult car I've had.
 
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Of course, buying a car is one thing. Now there was just the small issue of getting it to New Zealand. Luckily, not only was Dominic happy to be my interpreter and negotiator, he fortuitously happens to live a mere 35 minutes north of Charles de Gaulle airport, ha recently retired, and best of all, he owns a tandem axle trailer and a diesel Renault Espace to tow it with. If I paid for the diesel and motorway tolls, he was happy to take me to collect the car and get it back to his place to get it ready to ship. And as I go to France every year for work, taking a group to Le Mans for the 24 Hour race, it was no issue to fly up a couple of days early.

So at 7.30am, 30 hours after leaving NZ I get off the plane to be met by Dominic and his mate, fellow vintage Renault owner Jean-Pierre. and after a quick coffee (and I don't drink coffee) at Jean Pierre's place ten minutes away where the Espace and trailer, we set off for the 500 km drive south east to meet Bruno, pay the balance and finally see my new car. Ten minutes away from our destination, in the countryside not far from Lyon Dominic calls Bruno and as we pull into a small rural service station Bruno arrives - on a heavily accessorised Lambetta, looking the epitome of cool. it was immediately obvious that he was the decent guy he seemed like as we went through the buying process, and as I try to give him the large wad of Euros which I have nervously carried all the way from home he refuses it "Non, you pay when you see the car and are happy it is as I say." With that he leads us around the back and into a shed and in the back, hemmed in by a VW buggy and a 4CV Renault, there it was. I may have seen 113 photos of it, but you can't beat seeing a car in the metal and there, under a heavy coat of dust, was the 302. Was I happy?
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Yes I was! But how the hell were we going to get it out?

While I'm looking over the car, I hear an engine behind me. It's the garage's flatbed recovery truck. It took two minutes to tow the 4CV and VW out of the way and the truck backed up to the 302, the rope was attached to the diff. and it was winched on to the deck. Then the truck backed up to Dominic's trailer and it was an easy job to winch it on and tie it down. Only now will Bruno take my money, and then hands over the carte gris (French registration document), and all the other documents I'll need to import it and register it when it's ready for the road here. He's booked us into a nearby farmstay and after an hour or so to settle in he meet us and takes us into a nearby village which just happens to have a boutique brewery, where we spend a few very pleasant hours drinking good beer, eating great food and talking cars.

The next morning we turn around and head 500 km back to Verneuil en Halatte. The Espace didn't seem to have any difficulty pulling the 302 and trailer, sitting comfortably at 120km/h on the Autoroute. If you want to get attention, I recommend having a 302 on your trailer. we got plenty of toots and waves from passing cars, and it drew a crowd every time we pulled into a Services for fuel, food or drink. Jet lag was starting to get at me but I was desperately keen to get back to Dominic's , my French "home", get the car off and have a decent look at it...
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That's a really good looking car, should make a great resto project. I only hope you don't give it the same treatment that the Lammie got!

Henry
 
A great score there you lucky fella . '
Trust all lives up to expectations
Enjoy
 
As we all know, there is nothing like getting your new car home. In this case it wasn't my home, but Dominic's place feels like home, and the 302 was now in the same shed as his 202, so it works for me. There wasn't much tome for 302 bonding sessions as it was mid afternoon by the time we got back and unloaded the car, so there was only time for a quick inspection before beer o'clock, which involved the very special case of Westvleteren trappist beer which lives in Dominic's cellar, and Collette's dinner, which alone is worth driving 500 km across France for, so I still was only getting a cursory look at the car. Tomorrow, duty was calling and I had to go to work, which involved the Le Mans 24 Hours, car museums, alpine passes, eleven countries and plenty of history as I took three different groups on tour before my last paying customers were dropped off in Switzerland a month later and I could head back to Verneuil en Halatte for a few days to get the car ready to ship.
I had already paid a visit to Depanoto, the legendary wreckers yard between Paris and Le Mans who specialise in pre-war French car parts, original and repro (a compulsory educational stop on my Le Mans tour) . The haul from there included copies of the handbook, parts book and some technical info, as well as a full set of door and windscreen rubbers, but I had another stop in mind.

Thanks to a friend of a friend, my visit to Musee Peugeot included a visit to the museum workshop, the Peugeot Classic warehouse and most importantly, access to the archive department, and some quality time alone with the museum's 302, with permission to look inside, under the bonnet and pretty much do anything I like short of pinching bits off it. This was the closest I had been to a 302 and the chance to crawl over it and get photos was priceless, even if it just conformed how straight and unmolested my car is. Returning to base I was now desperate to finally see what I had let myself in for.

A new set of Michelin 134/140-40 Superconfort tyres and tubes which I had ordered were waiting for me when I got there and the local garage was given the task to remove what could well have been the original 1937 Engelberts - which were identical in size and tread pattern to the new Michelins which they fitted. Having them on the car meant I didn't have to pay GST on the value of five not exactly cheap tyres as they were now part of the car.

We knew the engine was seized, so Dominic had filled the bores with WD40 but even after a month or more of sitting soaking, it still was showing no sign of freeing. Not being sure what harm 50 years of inactivity had done to it, we decided it would be a good idea to have a look inside, just in case it was hiding something nasty. Finding a new engine and shipping it back in the container with the car would be easier whiIe I was still in France. We pushed the car over his pit and I climbed down and with great trepidation, cut the wire and undid the sump plug. You have no idea how relieved I was to see oil, not rusty water pour out. That was test 1 passed. Test two was to take the head off. The first lesson from this was that a 302 is a bastard of a car to work on and I now love my vintage American cars even more! Eventually we got it off without damaging anything else and again, there was no obvious sign of trouble (or so we thought...) and the lack of wear in anything we pulled apart backed up the speedo which was showing it had only done 53000 km from new.

Having it over the pit made a close inspection much easier, and also cleaning it to a state where I wouldn't be sent to jail for 400 years when a dirty, insect infested car arrived in New Zealand. Neither Dominic nor I could believe how good the car was. Not a rust hole anywhere, no sign of any part of it having been molested in any way, and so clean (apart form oil and grease) that it was obvious this was a car which had sent all it's life in the city. We had washed it when we got t off the trailer and I was confident the original paint was actually in a state where it could be preserved, while Dominic was convinced it was a restoration project. I decided to give it a quick polish by hand so I had a better idea of what state it really was in. Neither of us were prepared for the end result - the black paint comes up as good as new.

It was while I was polishing it that I noticed four marks on the roof, which looked to me like where a roof rack had been sitting. I asked Dominic for his opinion and he agreed, then disappeared for five minutes only to return carrying a cobweb and dust covered rack which he sat on the roof and clearly it was identical to the one which had been on there. The shape matched the curve of the roof and the feet set exactly on the existing marks. he had literally picked it out of a rubbish skip on the side of the road 20 years ago, thinking it might fit his 202. It was too big and he put it aside, on the off-chance that one day, someone might want it. Someone did want it!

Our final act before I flew home was to push the car out of the garage and photograph it alongside the 202, which was to keep it company un
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til I had arranged the shipping.
 
With a shipping date confirmed, the 302 found itself again back on Dominic's trailer, accompanied by Jean-Pierre and his trailer. Shipping a container filled with a car and lots of fresh air seemed pointless, so there was a 1928 Renault KZ2 chassis, to go under my Renault as the original chassis had been damaged and very crudely repaired way back in history, plus a roll-cage for a mate's Porsche 944 and several boxes of new Ford Capri part's for my partner's brother. With all of this deposited at Le Havre, all I had to do now was wait for my ship to come in.

None of the preceding would have been possible without the help of my English speaking, trailer owning friend Dominic, interpreter, negotiator, recovery and delivery driver. And he lets my drove his cars when I'm there (1927 Renault KZ1, 1932 Citroen C4 and 1938 202) as well as drink his beer. None of this could have happened without him, and meeting him was solely down to the internet and the pre-war Renault Club web forum.

On 23 December my father and I took two utes and trailers to Napier and Christmas had come early. Everything arrived safe, undamaged and it was a good day as the 302 was pushed into my father's shed, ready for the re-commissioning process to begin. I had already decided that while by no means perfect, the car was far too good to be restored, so the plan was to clean, repair were necessary and get the car roadworthy with a minimum of interference.

Body-wise the few small dents can stay as they are, none are major and are as far as I'm concerned, part of the car's story. There are quite a few chips in the paint in places. These are being dealt with by a small brush and slowly building up layers od black lacquer until it is higher that the surrounding original paint. Then I'll rub the new repair back with 1500 and 2000 went and dry, before going over it with an electric buff. This process is still going on, and so far the results are as good as I hoped.

The interior is not perfect but it is still presentable so apart form a good clean, and a repair to the armrest on the passenger side I'm happy to leave it alone. The dash and it's various controls are all perfect, no-one has altered or butchered anything, bare the addition on the 1950s of indicators on the rear c-pillar which was an update required to meet traffic regulations. I have put a double-filament LED in the park lights to give it front indicators as well, and with black cotton-braided wire following the main loom looking like it was always there.

The only real thing of concern was the seized engine which after five months of the bores soaking in WD40, was still showing no sign of freeing. A fellow '02 owner in the UK suggested a brew of acetone, automatic transmission fluid and diesel. We tried this, and viola! It moved! We took the sump off again, removed the pistons and contemplated our next move. In the end we decided to pull the motor out and strip it completely. This seemed like a good idea at the time, but we weren't so sure after starting the removal process. Access around the top of the bell-housing made it very difficult to unbolt the gearbox so we decided that the best thing was to remove engine and gearbox as a single unit. How hard can that be???

I can now say that it can be very hard! The process starts by removing the back seat! To remove engine and gearbox you need to take the gear lever out. To do this you need to remove the front section of the transmission tunnel. To do this you need to take the floorboards out. The floor of a 302 consists of two pieces of plywood which run the entire length of the cabin from to rear, one either side of the tunnel. To remove these, you take out the back seat squab. Then you can get to the bracket which holds the back seat squab in place and remove that. Next, unbolt and remove the entire front seat. Remove the rear carpet and front floor mat and finally you have access to the screws which attach the floors to the chassis. Undo these and the boards lift out. Unscrew and remove the front section of the transmission tunnel and you can finally get to the collar which holds the gear lever in place.

Needless to say, there has been a modification made to the floorboards. We have split them just in front of the front seat so if (god help us )we do have to take the motor out again we can do it without having to dismantle most of the interior of the car.

The actual extraction process of engine and gearbox is equally fraught, as even with the head off and of course radiator removed (that's no five second job either, there is still seemingly not enough room and it comes out of the hole at a 75 degree angle. It is by far the biggest bastard of a car I have had to work on and I'm dreading having to put it back in...

It has however proved to be the right thing to do. Once we had the block stropped and cleaned on the outside, we spotted a crack in the water jacket, which we hadn't spotted previously. Then , when we gave the top of the block a decent clean, things got ugly, with a crack across two head stud holes and the water jacket. Perhaps I should have put a spare engine in the container after all. This is going to be bigger than new rings and a valve grind!
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The block was taken the the local cast iron welding specialist who was confident he could fix the cracks so it was left with him, just as the country went into lockdown. When we were final released from house arrest I was able to collect it and deliver it to the reconditioners, to have the block resurfaced and the now missing stud holes redrilled. He took a look and commented that this might still not end well. Refacing the top of the block shouldn't be an issue but he was worried about being able to drill and tap the repaired area. In the meantime I had found a couple of blocks in France, and a complete 2 litre 402 engine, so there was a plan B, if i could afford it. 2020 is not a good year to be working in the travel industry!

Luckily the repair worked well and with the engine home we started putting it back together. Before we stripped it, there seemed to be a couple of tight spots so I bought a new timing chain, and the bores were given a decent hone. With new rings on the pistons the end was almost in sight. Piston no. 1 went on the hole and things didn't feel right. It felt like it was binding in the bore at bottom dead centre. No. 2 and 3 seemed fine but no. 4 made things worse. As neither my father or I are experts, we removed the crank and I took the block with pistons in place, back to the engine shop for them to cast their eyes over it.

The verdict was they couldn't explain why, but two cylinders were smaller in the bottom that the top, to the point where there was no way it would be safe to carry on. The options were the cheap way, attack it with a hone and it might do the job, or the expensive option, press out the dry sleeves and resleeve it. The advice was if I went for the cheap option, i would be back in six months with an engine which knocked, smoked badly or both. So, tomorrow I collect a block with new sleeves. I'm away next week so there will be a couple of weeks delay but
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again, we aren't far away from having the engine back together and in the car.
 
What a wonderful story... Thanks so much. Fabulous car too - those aerostyled bodies didn't help access it seems!

Just a comment. Those side flashers/parking lamps behind the rear doors up on the side of the bonnet look like the Scintex ones used on Renault 4CVs after 1953. There is an earlier type with an amber glass in somewhat of an art deco style used on earlier 4CVs and some Traction models. See "le Jockey" below. They turn up for sale on ebay France and might even be catalogue items. I wonder whether what you have is retrofitted, not that they look bad I'd add. And who would know anyway!!
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So good you are NOT restoring it. It's much too good for that.

And a question. News of the KZ2?
 
There is an old dirty trick for getting stud hole drilling right in circumstances like these

Use head or manifold, according to the problem, as a template, with all other studs in and lined up correctly

Have two insets made for offending hole with OD of the stud hole in head

One has ID of suitable lead drill ( small )

One has ID of relevant tapping drill for the female thread in the block

Put inserts into hole in head/manifold or whatever

Drill holes and rethread

Can also be used for drilling out and replacing broken off studs which are frozen into head and defying the “easy out” ( This must be done before one has broken off the Easy Out in the stud!)

My guess is that your machinist knows vastly more about this than I do and may have a much better way, but this is a trick from the old days

Good luck

ANdrew
 
What a wonderful story... Thanks so much. Fabulous car too - those aerostyled bodies didn't help access it seems!

Just a comment. Those side flashers/parking lamps behind the rear doors up on the side of the bonnet look like the Scintex ones used on Renault 4CVs after 1953. There is an earlier type with an amber glass in somewhat of an art deco style used on earlier 4CVs and some Traction models. See "le Jockey" below. They turn up for sale on ebay France and might even be catalogue items. I wonder whether what you have is retrofitted, not that they look bad I'd add. And who would know anyway!!View attachment 121598

So good you are NOT restoring it. It's much too good for that.

And a question. News of the KZ2?


Yes the lights are a retrofit as the car was in use up to 1970 so newer traffic laws meant they needed to be fitted around the time the lion on the grille was decapitated.

KZ progress has been slow. The cabinetmaker has finished the woodwork for the front of the cab. We have had some issues with the engine which I thank have been sorted. Once we get the 302 on the road the KZ will be back in the front shed and getting the attention it deserves. One good thing was when the 302 arrived there was a KZ chassis in the container. I was always concerned about a major and very crude repair to the left dumb-iron. This chassis is perfect, so the first job will be to sandblast and paint it, then start swapping bits from one to the other...
 
That is great re the KZ. Those side lamps are not a bad fit, styling-wise - quite a good choice given that they don't replace earlier ones. I've found LED bulbs make a dramatic improvement in "noticeability" for the lamps in that position.

Thanks and good luck with the restoration of the KZ and the refurbishment of the Peugeot!
 
That is great re the KZ. Those side lamps are not a bad fit, styling-wise - quite a good choice given that they don't replace earlier ones. I've found LED bulbs make a dramatic improvement in "noticeability" for the lamps in that position.

Thanks and good luck with the restoration of the KZ and the refurbishment of the Peugeot!

I've put LED in the parklights and these ones will be getting them as well.
 
When I was cleaning the car in Dominic's shed before it and I left France I found a mark in the paint on the roof. Working my way around it, I found three more. Roof rack maybe? I called Dominic away from the job he was doing on his Citroen C4 . He took one look and said yes definitely. Not the factory item, but definitely a period accessory. Literally two minutes later he returned, carrying a dusty, cobweb covered roof rack and sat it on the car.

It fitted perfectly, the shape followed the contours of the roof, and the legs sat exactly in the marks on the paint. Clearly the same item as the car had worn for most of it's life. It turns out he had found it in a rubbish heap 20+ years ago and thinking it might fit his 202 he took it home. It was too big so he put it in the loft of his barn... just in case someone might need it. I was now that someone, and after five minutes on the Depanoto website we had ordered new rubber feet which were the only things missing. Returning to his place after running my next tour, the feet had arrived, the dust and cobwebs removed and it was installed in the roof, ready to stack some of the spare bits and pieces which were coming back in the container with the car.
The decision now is do I find some old leather suitcases to put on it. or some WWII ammunition crates?
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What a great story! Find some period photos is my suggestion. They carried all sorts of things on those roof racks....

Here's a 4CV in France just last year. Fishing tackle on the side and anything else on top.

Is your car before the time Peugeot had built-in roof rack mountings?
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