I just wanted to add some info after finding this forum really useful after the dreaded urea light came on in our 2015 Grand Picasso when the tank was nearly full. Citroen really came through on this for us - supplied a new part free and we only paid $500 labour and was sorted before the car stopped completely! Car was over a year out of warranty but apparently this problem my be covered up to 8 years / under 100000 km if there is also a full service history. I would have been very unhappy if we’d been left with a $4500 repair. Unfortunately this is the final straw for us in terms of ownership of a European car - after a scary $8000 of repairs covered during the final year of warranty and a couple since we’ve decided to order a new (non- French) car which is a shame as my family have owned Citroens and Peugeots for decades.
C4 Picasso AdBlue tank
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The tank pump suffers failure from having a blocked vent in the cap. Make sure it's always clean especially if the car lives on dirt roads.
There is a goodwill assistance form on service box that can be access for applying for coverage of the tank unit when out of warranty. But a claim has to be done. As it's a known issue it's usually covered. Otherwise best to source a tank pump genuine but from overseas not local as it's 1/3 cheaper. On average the tanks last 150k.before pump burns out or throws low pressure faults.
There was a software patch that was installed to help tank last longer but it was no good and is no longer used on the adblue pump ecu. So it's either a new tank or an adblue delete. Use of diagbox will also allow accurate diagnosis of the cause of the issue but non diagbox scanner won't give full function for carrying out the tests and.resets.
There is a goodwill assistance form on service box that can be access for applying for coverage of the tank unit when out of warranty. But a claim has to be done. As it's a known issue it's usually covered. Otherwise best to source a tank pump genuine but from overseas not local as it's 1/3 cheaper. On average the tanks last 150k.before pump burns out or throws low pressure faults.
There was a software patch that was installed to help tank last longer but it was no good and is no longer used on the adblue pump ecu. So it's either a new tank or an adblue delete. Use of diagbox will also allow accurate diagnosis of the cause of the issue but non diagbox scanner won't give full function for carrying out the tests and.resets.
Careful - as you know, thats illegal (for a bunch of very good reasons). Wouldn't be saying that in public if i were you and wanting to stay in business.
Any repairer that was to modify a vehicle would always provide an engineering certificate or state in writing with customers signature of acknowledgement that the repair was for off road use only and using on road would be at the owners own risk and the repairer would not be held liable. Whether the owner of the car follows that advice is up to them.
I love the attitude and threatening behaviour of some people of this forum.
Frenchiemech must have worked for VW management at some stage.
Work a bit slow ATM so jumps on here to pad up business.
Work a bit slow ATM so jumps on here to pad up business.
Settle down tiger, I'm merely pointing out that you should be careful. The EPA do not look kindly on businesses condoning such things! I wasnt making any comments on your ethics in suggesting a hack that increases emissions.
The whole "off road use" bullshit is coming to an end thankfully, as demonstrated by all the coal rolling idiots in the US losing their shit over the EPA actually starting to enforce laws that have been in place for 50 years
Having lived in Canberra and attempted (and failed) to seek some halfway competent assistance with a Megane, anyone that can provide actually useful service in that weird little town would make a killing without needing to talk themselves up.
Suggesting dodgy hacks though is not encouraging...
I'm sorry to hear how U feel about it and I'm sorry U feel so negative about what Ive said. .sorry to upset U or strike a nerve as it wasn't my intention.
I would honestly prefer if people have the money to fix their cars properly and do as such.
We don't actually provide the remap or delete options our selves as can't justify spending thousands on technology to do the work U are talking about that we would only use once or twice. Especially after already spending thousands for genuine psa diagnostic infrastructure and ability to provide our clients with online service box access to software updates and coding of modules without them having to visit a dealership now that psa has provided independent workshops with paid access to this system as well as normal dealer access to dealers meaning we can provide our customers with a diagnostic and software update service they no longer have to go to the dealer to obtain.
But we know of many repairers in the trade in Sydney who do tuning and remapping and we just refer the person to that service provider and if that's what they want to do they can do so at their own free will and deal with them directly.
We also supply a large range of genuine and after market parts at affordable prices with adblue tanks and pumps one of the things we sell at a discounted rate quite often and up to 75% cheaper cost than local dealers with warranty. We also do this for the dpf additive pouches or refillable tanks and this helps people to fix their cars properly and at a price that can afford depending on their budget. We sell Second hand parts, reconditioned parts, new parts both OEM and oe with warranty and genuine parts both locally and internationally sourced depending on availability and best price for our customers.
It's unfortunate u had no luck seeking assistance with your Megane. Renotech In Sydney are best choice for Renault Megane service and repair as far as I'm aware. They are really good at renault. They also do performance upgrades and tuning / remapping software but that sounds like something that may not interest you. But They are still very good if not the best Australia wide at what they do and only touch Renault.
Alpine motors canberra used to be really good under the former owner Luis kotzbeck for Renault repairs but I'm not sure what they are like under the new owners.
All I do is Peugeot Citroen mechanical and auto electrical and Nothing else. Because it doesn't interest me to touch anything else so I don't.
I would honestly prefer if people have the money to fix their cars properly and do as such.
We don't actually provide the remap or delete options our selves as can't justify spending thousands on technology to do the work U are talking about that we would only use once or twice. Especially after already spending thousands for genuine psa diagnostic infrastructure and ability to provide our clients with online service box access to software updates and coding of modules without them having to visit a dealership now that psa has provided independent workshops with paid access to this system as well as normal dealer access to dealers meaning we can provide our customers with a diagnostic and software update service they no longer have to go to the dealer to obtain.
But we know of many repairers in the trade in Sydney who do tuning and remapping and we just refer the person to that service provider and if that's what they want to do they can do so at their own free will and deal with them directly.
We also supply a large range of genuine and after market parts at affordable prices with adblue tanks and pumps one of the things we sell at a discounted rate quite often and up to 75% cheaper cost than local dealers with warranty. We also do this for the dpf additive pouches or refillable tanks and this helps people to fix their cars properly and at a price that can afford depending on their budget. We sell Second hand parts, reconditioned parts, new parts both OEM and oe with warranty and genuine parts both locally and internationally sourced depending on availability and best price for our customers.
It's unfortunate u had no luck seeking assistance with your Megane. Renotech In Sydney are best choice for Renault Megane service and repair as far as I'm aware. They are really good at renault. They also do performance upgrades and tuning / remapping software but that sounds like something that may not interest you. But They are still very good if not the best Australia wide at what they do and only touch Renault.
Alpine motors canberra used to be really good under the former owner Luis kotzbeck for Renault repairs but I'm not sure what they are like under the new owners.
All I do is Peugeot Citroen mechanical and auto electrical and Nothing else. Because it doesn't interest me to touch anything else so I don't.
Lol captain sublet then.
Except that because our car had a full dealer service history (that had to be verified) the problem was sorted out of warranty with minimal cost - pretty sure we couldn’t have got a new Adblue tank fitted for less than $500 otherwise.
Hi all, reviving this thread because I have recently had the same problem but with an extra complication. Has the adblue tank replaced under warranty a year ago, and the error recently came up again. Took it to the local Citroën approved dealer who diagnosed the same fault and recommended replacing the adblue tank again. Citroën agreed to cover half of the cost since it was out of warranty.
Here’s the kicker, a day after the adblue tank was replaced, the urea light and warning came on again. Took it to the dealer who said a hose has been damaged and all the adblue had leaked out, resulting in none getting to the engine, and that I must have driven over something to cause the damage.
Is this even possible? I basically drove the car home after the repair and then to work the next day which is when the light came back on. I am suspicious that something has happened during the adblue tank installation by the mechanic to damage the hose, but can’t really prove anything since I didn’t check underneath the car or take any photos after the repair. Has anyone else come across this issue or can shed some light on whether their explanation makes sense?
Here’s the kicker, a day after the adblue tank was replaced, the urea light and warning came on again. Took it to the dealer who said a hose has been damaged and all the adblue had leaked out, resulting in none getting to the engine, and that I must have driven over something to cause the damage.
Is this even possible? I basically drove the car home after the repair and then to work the next day which is when the light came back on. I am suspicious that something has happened during the adblue tank installation by the mechanic to damage the hose, but can’t really prove anything since I didn’t check underneath the car or take any photos after the repair. Has anyone else come across this issue or can shed some light on whether their explanation makes sense?
I've got a 2013 508GT with service light on - one diagnosis leads to Eloys? tank replacement and I'm informed doing this replacement may not remove service light. Car is running like a dream with service light on and 3 beeps on startup / engine fault warning and always has run well. Any way I can "delete" the eloys tank and or remove the service code? It's a definite fault and again, nothing wrong with the car. $165ks on the dial.
$165ks on the dial.
Something I'm not getting. You've been told the Eolys reservoir needs topping up - why don't you just top it up ? But I see you've posted on a thread about AdBlue - are you confusing AdBlue with Eolys ? Different products. Just top up your reservoir and keep driving for another 165K kms. Easy. The kit including the 3 litre refill and adapters is widely available. Yes, you'll need to reset the computer afterwards to tell it you've refilled the reservoir. Much easier and cheaper than an AdBlue tank replacement.I've got a 2013 508GT with service light on - one diagnosis leads to Eloys? tank replacement and I'm informed doing this replacement may not remove service light. Car is running like a dream with service light on and 3 beeps on startup / engine fault warning and always has run well. Any way I can "delete" the eloys tank and or remove the service code? It's a definite fault and again, nothing wrong with the car.
Cheers
Justin
If you don't fill up the eolys tank, the car will stop doing regenerations on the DPF. Then you will be in heaps of diabolicals down the track!
There is a good thread on AF about refilling the eolys on a C5X7. I'm sure there would be either a thread for a 508GT or there might even be a youtube video out there waiting to be found.
Cheers, Ken
There is a good thread on AF about refilling the eolys on a C5X7. I'm sure there would be either a thread for a 508GT or there might even be a youtube video out there waiting to be found.
Cheers, Ken
Mechanic said "might need topping up, might clear the error code" and "the error code doesnt indicate it's the eolys fluid, it might be but unsure" - how much should this eolys fluid topup cost? Mechanic said "$700". Lots of "mights" and I'm told eloys top-up usually presents a different instruction in JBL screen/dash, something like "change eloys fluid in 600KM". Another mechanic said it;s not eolys tank. Argh, C'est pas vrai!
Thanks Ken, I'll check it out.
The X7 is very like the 508 mechanically. It's an easy DIY job, and the fluid can be got from several after-market suppliers, eg EAI in Melbourne.
When refilled, you will need someone with Diagbox software to reset the computer - it will continue to nag you otherwise.
To illustrate the C5 thread, here it is for a 508 in Romanian.
When refilled, you will need someone with Diagbox software to reset the computer - it will continue to nag you otherwise.
To illustrate the C5 thread, here it is for a 508 in Romanian.
Been looking at a 2015 with a boot full of white residue. It’s one owner ( despite a documented history of trouble with its adblue ) has just paid $5968 to have a new tank, injector and heat shield fitted, so he can sell it for $13,000. Having advised there was no other option being out of warranty, the local “ Dealer “ also did roadworthy - replacing CV boot and both wishbones - but overlooking top engine mount …
Got a fluid refill kit and it's all fine now, thanks for your advice.