Thanks for the offer Don, sounds like a plan. As we stayed at mc namara park in broke on sat night,nice and quiet,my wife had a vertigo relapse on sunday morning and spent three hours in singleton hospital,parked van at caravan park in singleton,she slept while I went to fcd.I didn,t realise those coal trains were so long and ran through the night sounded like they were about ten metres from our van,so I think staying overnight at the winery would have to be a real positive. jim