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    Default What price for an exhaust?

    Hoping to get the exhaust done in the next few weeks so I can get finally the Fuego Turbo project into top gear.

    I had some rough quotes today starting at $700 for a mild steel 3 inch system (turbo back).

    There is no cat and the exhaust bloke reckons it'll probably be ok with 1 large straight through resonator in the middle.

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    His version of a reasonable sound level and mine may be different things.

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    I say the minimum spend is around $1000 for a full working finished system.

    I've used this mob , they specialise in custom fabricated exhausts and are fair in price.

    They are honest too, I took a car to sort out what sound like a muffler baffle problem. $10 later it was exhaust clamp rattling. Although I went for a walk, Steve didn't take advantage. He's done a few systems for me now.

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    Crikey! Just looked at who was 'watching' the thread and really feel like pulling my head in!
    $700 is pricey but then again he is doing a bespoke piece and time is money, which you pay for....get another small straight thru added near the end with, possibly, a 'fart can' tip just because you can!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluey504 View Post
    Crikey! Just looked at who was 'watching' the thread and really feel like pulling my head in!
    $700 is pricey but then again he is doing a bespoke piece and time is money, which you pay for....get another small straight thru added near the end with, possibly, a 'fart can' tip just because you can!
    For a three inch system standard practice is fabricate from mandrel bends. Sometimes they will do bends in the machine for <30 degrees.

    It's a lot of stuffing to make a one off system from scratch, especially in 3 inch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    I say the minimum spend is around $1000 for a full working finished system
    Got mine for $350 from a Profix.

    2.5", mild steel, single straight through centre box from the turbo back.

    They spent a lot of time and effort making sure the bit over the half shaft (very squeezy on a 505) didn't rub on the body anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    For a three inch system standard practice is fabricate from mandrel bends. Sometimes they will do bends in the machine for <30 degrees.

    It's a lot of stuffing to make a one off system from scratch, especially in 3 inch.
    THen when you actually try and make a 3 inch zorst fit over the rear beam, and close enough to the floor to allow some type of ground clearance in the middle of the car, you'll discover a whole stack of woe.

    Mine is only 2.25, but was a total PITA and took many returns to theshop to get right.
    It may look right when cold, but can grow substantially when it gets real hot and rattle on a rear cross brace.

    A tip.... as well as a hot dog centre, have a rear muffler, and attach it with flange plates to make removal easy.
    If ever you need to get to the filler neck (do you use one???) its worth the extra $50 to have it easily removable.

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    Stealing others peoples posts now Jo have you run out of ideas ? .... lol

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    Icon6 Might be several ways to fix that.

    $700 I guess that's why I used to look through scrapped Fuego's at Pick-A-part, amazing how many had almost new exhausts, half shafts, and shock absorbers, as well as sundry go faster elegant add ons, then a cam belt would break and destroy the engine through lack of preventative maintenance and you would strip off all those goodies, pay between $100 to $150 and walk out with all you might need for years to come.

    I guess if it is a custom job with non standard pipes it might be worth that money, but I think if I was going to invest that money, I'd go for a stainless steel system that can be moved from car to car. Should not be that much more expensive. have to watch that you get "real" stainless rather than the chinese pipes that sprout rust while you watch..

    Some of the old exhaust guys liked the challenge of making up one off systems, as invariably they would get more customers by word of mouth praise. I also like some of the specialist exhaust places in the USA, I know that with some Porsche stuff, you can buy and import for often half the price delivered right to your door, and that gives you an idea of the sort of price you might try and bargain for as you search for local suppliers etc.

    Given the difficulties that Jo mentions in configuring larger pipe over the rear axle, consider getting a custom combined muffler and expansion chamber made up from stainless and match the pipes in fairly simple straight runs in ordinary mild steel. I am sure that Richard could figure his way through the design and fitting to serve all purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post
    THen when you actually try and make a 3 inch zorst fit over the rear beam, and close enough to the floor to allow some type of ground clearance in the middle of the car, you'll discover a whole stack of woe.

    Mine is only 2.25, but was a total PITA and took many returns to theshop to get right.
    It may look right when cold, but can grow substantially when it gets real hot and rattle on a rear cross brace.

    A tip.... as well as a hot dog centre, have a rear muffler, and attach it with flange plates to make removal easy.
    If ever you need to get to the filler neck (do you use one???) its worth the extra $50 to have it easily removable.

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    Yeah, the bit over the beam is the tight bit.

    I had a 2.5 inch system (IIRC) on my Old Fuego and it fitted ok without any knocking so hopefully it fits.

    I might have more clearance if I split it into two smaller diameter pipes before the beam and run a tail pipe out each side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistareno View Post
    Yeah, the bit over the beam is the tight bit.

    I had a 2.5 inch system (IIRC) on my Old Fuego and it fitted ok without any knocking so hopefully it fits.

    I might have more clearance if I split it into two smaller diameter pipes before the beam and run a tail pipe out each side.
    You'll need to make sure your middle muffler is a good quiet one with that plan, because without rebuilding the body, the jack compartment on the drivers side takes up the space where the muffler sits so adding one later if (when) it's too loud will be difficult.

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    nothing to add on cost or fitment, but as per my recent experience, i am very happy indeed with the sound from a couple of hot dogs, which i gather is essentially what is meant by a resonator?

    they are quite short at 300mm so one long one could be pushing their combined length, which may amount to the same thing as two short ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post
    You'll need to make sure your middle muffler is a good quiet one with that plan, because without rebuilding the body, the jack compartment on the drivers side takes up the space where the muffler sits so adding one later if (when) it's too loud will be difficult.

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    It will be turbocharged so it will naturally be quiet. The installer seemed fairly confident that the muffler he showed me would do the trick.

    Fingers crossed. It would be a little embarrassing arriving at my work with a car that vibrates windows.

    The muffler he showed me looked a little like this in design. I can't imagine this shutting things up all that much.


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    my car has one of those on the rear and a hot dog mid way.
    It is bloody loud.
    mom thinks it sounds like a dc3.
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    Turbo cars are always much quieter than the equivalent non-boosted cars. My Alpine GTA Turbo runs a 3" system that is only about 5' long including just a single straight through 24" stainless resonator across the rear. There is a cat as well, but it doesn't do anything much for noise reduction. With this system my car has quite a reasonable noise output and doesn't upset anyone. No droning at constant speeds either.
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