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    Icon12 Success!!!!

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    And NO you 205 boys can't have the engine its going back in the bx

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    time!!!!

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    It was nice of you to get it ready for me, but i'm not up till next week...

    Or if you aren't feeling generous...
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    Quote Originally Posted by al
    It was nice of you to get it ready for me, but i'm not up till next week...
    Coming up to lend a hand are we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave
    Coming up to lend a hand are we?

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    You need a hand to get the head off...
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    Quote Originally Posted by al
    You need a hand to get the head off...
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    Some progress tonight. Got the gearbox, clutch, flywheel, hp pump, alternator, starter and thermostat housing off. Should be able to get it up onto the engine stand, rip the head off and start inspecting internals soon.




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    I take it you do have a valve lifter that handles those recessed springs??

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    Possibly not, won't be sure how our valve spring compressor will go till I have the head off and have a look at it (haven't actually had a look at a 16v in pieces before.

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    Look at the height of that bloody thing given the sump is so small .... Are you sure you haven't accidently found yourself a long stroke truck engine

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    Hi Dave,

    getcha self one of those engine levellers to refit the bugger, it caused all sorts of grief trying the get that big b@stard with the turbo manifolding on out of the CX ..... With the leveller .... I sh!t you not .... 2minutes to drop it back in, and 10minutes to crank the leveller back. It took literally hours to get the sh!t of a thing out.

    Looking at the angle you have used here, you *need* a leveller... There cheap too. I thought they were quite expensive, but at Alan's insistance and links to ebay (nothing like having to hammer things home with me ) I finally agreed ... there only 35bux .... bloody hell I'm grabbing one on the way home tonight !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave
    Possibly not, won't be sure how our valve spring compressor will go till I have the head off and have a look at it (haven't actually had a look at a 16v in pieces before.

    Dave

    I doubt you'll find your standard compressor will work as they actually fit right down inside the hole the hydraulic tappets sit in. That's the good news; the bad is that when you go to see the man at the tool shop, he gets "that look" and either tells you that they don't make such a thing, hasn't heard of anyone ever needing one, a standard one will do the trick or they're as expensive as hell so better take it to an engine rebuilder who has a pneumatic one.
    We actually used a part off a guys home built spring compressor that was designed for taking them out in situ. It was basically a piece of thick walled tubing about 50mm long with enough of the sides removed to still leave enough to support the strength of the compressor, attached the top to the forked end of the compressor and made certain the end that sits on the valve face is nice and loose so it will follow the engle of the valve face. Get some "sticky" grease handy as well as a nice thin electricians type screwdriver and ask for divine guidance to give you the patience HE gave Job when refitting the collets.
    A real fun job.


    Alan S

    PS. Better get this downloaded ASAP from my mate in the UKs site.

    http://www.rwbsmith.plus.com/citroen2/Engine/

    It's priceless and comes in two parts and will save you a lot of aggro
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    Hi Dave,

    getcha self one of those engine levellers to refit the bugger, it caused all sorts of grief trying the get that big b@stard with the turbo manifolding on out of the CX ..... With the leveller .... I sh!t you not .... 2minutes to drop it back in, and 10minutes to crank the leveller back. It took literally hours to get the sh!t of a thing out.
    Ken and I were having that exact discussion during the removal process

    Especially if I paint the engine up nicely before refitting it might save a few scratches in the fresh paint!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan S
    I doubt you'll find your standard compressor will work as they actually fit right down inside the hole the hydraulic tappets sit in. That's the good news; the bad is that when you go to see the man at the tool shop, he gets "that look" and either tells you that they don't make such a thing, hasn't heard of anyone ever needing one, a standard one will do the trick or they're as expensive as hell so better take it to an engine rebuilder who has a pneumatic one.
    We actually used a part off a guys home built spring compressor that was designed for taking them out in situ. It was basically a piece of thick walled tubing about 50mm long with enough of the sides removed to still leave enough to support the strength of the compressor, attached the top to the forked end of the compressor and made certain the end that sits on the valve face is nice and loose so it will follow the engle of the valve face. Get some "sticky" grease handy as well as a nice thin electricians type screwdriver and ask for divine guidance to give you the patience HE gave Job when refitting the collets.
    A real fun job.


    Alan S
    thanks Alan,

    Sounds like I might have to just take the complete head to the head shop and just get them to do all the work

    Dave


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    The outside of the tube, as Alan described, also needs to have a plastic collar, so you don't nick the bucket bore. If you're handy with a welder, it's easy enough to make one.

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    You wouldn't have a photo of your compressor would you Peter?

    Thanks,

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