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    Hi guys,

    I've been workin on a little project over the last few months and thought I'd let u see my progress so far!!

    The Engine: -

    Bought for the princely sum of 50 English Pounds!!! Bargian!! And delivered to the workshop for a tenner!!!

    It's a 3.5ltr Rover V8 out of a Range Rover running twin SU carbs at the moment. Just need to get a starter motor from ebay for a few quid and then we can fire her up!!! !!!

    The plan is to first of all measure up the engine bay and look at how much the bulkhead needs relieveing and then make up the front subframe once I've got a gearbox & bellhousing. Once that's done I can then look at mounting the rear axle and connecting the driveline. I'll be using a Ford Atlas axle cause then I can still use the 1.9 gti wheels!! LOL !!

    Here's a pic of the new beasty!!

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    Gearbox: -

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    Rear Axle: -

    Its from a Ford Capri 2.8i. Its also known as a Ford Atlas axle. Very stiff n sturdy, also the correct width tooo!!! Just need to make some longer wheel studs, n convert the rear drums to discs.

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    it'll make a good drag racer.

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    hehehe...that'll put some noses out of joint
    Are the authorities going to let you drive that on the street?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knucklehead
    hehehe...that'll put some noses out of joint
    Are the authorities going to let you drive that on the street?

    Yep,

    As long as it passes the MOT or (more stringent) the SVA, you can drive anything over here.

    Fab!



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    Im glad you all approve

    I've decided to build it purely for track use as it'd be way too much work to get it though n SVA test!!

    But, it'll be better on track anyway cause it'll be noiser!!!

    Yeah, I can imagine some people won't approve over there!!

    205's are still pretty common over here and everything that can be done has been or with a slight variation on the same theme, so wanted to do something totally nutz!!!

    Hoping to have it ready for French Car Show 2006 on May 28th but will be hard pushed!!

    On a slightly different note, I'm loving all the different smilies!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

    Mucho better than the new ones we got on the PGAC forum!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I would have thought that all that weight up the front would pretty much turn the car into a straight line bullet, and not much else

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    Dude, i saw your progress on the drivers forum recently... Fkn brilliant work! The rover engine is fairly light, (for a V8) and you should be able to turn this thing into a missile.

    With that spaceframe you should be able to make the whole thing work - look at what the bullet roadsters are capible of. (sure their balance isn't that of the standard car, but they are insane!)
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    How much heavier is the rover motor ... It's an all alloy 3.5litre V8 an incarnation of the old Buick motor (also fitted to Valient P76's out here in a bored out version). The cast iron block 2litre probably isn't hugely lighter

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    How much heavier is the rover motor ... It's an all alloy 3.5litre V8 an incarnation of the old Buick motor (also fitted to Valient P76's out here in a bored out version). The cast iron block 2litre probably isn't hugely lighter

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAHAM WALLIS
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    Before my time, but they had the 4.4litre Buick derived bent 8 didn't they ?? An all alloy unit that was a favorite for all sorts of conversions for years

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    its not that heavy tbh

    The block isn't much heavier than a XU alloy block

    the rear end is guna have a fair bit of weight over it with the rear end of the spaceframe plus fuel tank, battery, etc.

    The rear axle is guna have a 4 or 5-link with birdcages and panhard rod so traction will be aided

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    Before my time, but they had the 4.4litre Buick derived bent 8 didn't they ?? An all alloy unit that was a favorite for all sorts of conversions for years

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    LEYLAND P76. The Valiants had the boat anchor cast iron V8s.
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    Was this the engine that was fitted to the original Greg Park 504 V8?


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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAHAM WALLIS
    LEYLAND P76. The Valiants had the boat anchor cast iron V8s.
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    That's a pretty crazy project you've got there. Good luck, and I hope you succeed.
    Any idea what sort of power figure your aiming for, and how much the car might weigh?
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    cheers guys

    not sure on power figure yet as i may supercharge it

    no idea on weight but will try and keep weight down wherever i can

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    Thats a hell of alot of work for such a low powered engine though..

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    yeah i know but i may well upgrade to a 350 chevy once its all running

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgti6
    Was this the engine that was fitted to the original Greg Park 504 V8?


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    Gregs car has got the 3500 Rover V8, the P76 used a 4.4 litre version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Gentleman
    Thats a hell of alot of work for such a low powered engine though..
    the rover v8 is tough as nails, forged rods and relatively good flow standard, and they rev like no other v8 will, i spin mine to 7500 all day long, and they sound awsome. there is a guy down here that has a tr7 with a turbocharged 3.5 that produces reliable 350 rear wheel kw.

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    Some engine weights

    Original Buick 215 V8 318 lbs
    Rover V8 375 lbs
    Chev small block 575 lbs
    Chev big block 690 lbs or only 600 lbs with Alum. heads
    Ford Windsor 289/302 490 lbs
    When they first put a Rover V8 into an MGB they found that it was lighter than the 4 cyl engine that they took out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uk205mi16
    yeah i know but i may well upgrade to a 350 chevy once its all running
    good luck and take it easy... very big job..but everthing is possible at uk not in australia...but l belive dont spend too much money.. BIG JOB

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    Quote Originally Posted by uk205mi16
    yeah i know but i may well upgrade to a 350 chevy once its all running
    ..but thats nearly twice the weight and youd have to refabricate all the mounts, new bellhousing (if available) exhaust etc...

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    yeah dont be silly.. stick with working that rover properly.

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