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    Default 205 16v Converters (You may, root your boot)!

    Replaced my control arms today.

    I now know how my right hand inner drive shaft boot was damaged.

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    During the16v conversion the motor was mounted 10mm (approx) lower so as to clear the brake master cylinder, this means that the inner drive shaft boot now is 10mm closer to the "sharp" edged control arm mount subframe bracket (see photos).

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    When the car turns its hardest right at speed the right hand drive shaft drops lower and the boot only clears the subframe by about 5mm.
    However when I turn hard right in bitumen motorkhanas (I have been known to do it flat chat on the odd occasion) the drive shaft is revolving quite quickly, the right hand drive shaft is at its lowest position (end of shock travel) and the boot grows in outside diameter (from centrifical force), this is when it makes contact with the "sharp" edge on the subframe and this is what damaged my boot.

    I attempted to smooth the "sharp" edge off the subframe today and hope that it does not catch the boot again.

    I suggest that this smoothing (or trimming) of the subframe is a "must" and should be carried out both sides before dropping a 16v lump in.

    I also consider that most drivers will not corner quite as hard as I do in motorkhanas.

    Good Luck.
    Last edited by BIGRR; 2nd July 2013 at 11:34 PM.
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    The boots also expand when the grease inside gets hot. It is critical when putting them together to try and get as much air out of them as possible to stop the expansion.
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    I had the same issue on the left hand side. I also "smoothed" the subframe a little and raised the LH side a few mm. No more problems.

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    My grease is quite cool, its all on the outside!
    Present fleet:-
    Peugeot 93' 205 Gti 16v
    Peugeot 73' 504 Ti from new
    Peugeot 08' 407 Hdi Coupe from new

    Previous fleet:-
    Peugeot 95' 605 Sv
    Peugeot 92' 205 Gti
    Renault 72' 16TS from new
    Renault 69' 10
    Renault 71' 10s
    Renault 68' 10 from new

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    Same problem with mine - raised the gearbox mount a little and now no probs :-)
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    to stop boot expanding some people put a small piece of hose between boot and shaft prior to big zippies or clamps. they say use the straw picec that comes with most squirty products eg wd40 or similar

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    Both boots I replaced came with two orange rings (felt like some sort of hard plastic) that had to go over the bellows inside the deep grooves, perhaps to avoid these very problems.
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    Bloody good idea, a couple of cable ties would do same job (Cable ties hold most of the car together anyway so, a couple more would not hurt!).
    Present fleet:-
    Peugeot 93' 205 Gti 16v
    Peugeot 73' 504 Ti from new
    Peugeot 08' 407 Hdi Coupe from new

    Previous fleet:-
    Peugeot 95' 605 Sv
    Peugeot 92' 205 Gti
    Renault 72' 16TS from new
    Renault 69' 10
    Renault 71' 10s
    Renault 68' 10 from new

    "Be reasonable do it my way!"


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