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    G'day,

    I'm wondering about the distributors fitted to the early Fuegos, that fit on the back of the head. Does anyone know if the casting is the same on the back of a 505 head to allow a distributor to be fitted there?

    Obviously I have a 505 head here, I just need a photo of the distributor arrangement and preferably the back of a Fuego head to see if it's going to fit.

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    Can anyone help?
    Scotty

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    Hi
    I have installed distributor from R20 ts, on a 505 gti and it has worked well.

    Bobby

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    Thanks Jo and Bobby!

    Sounds like I don't need a pic to confirm anymore, so don't worry about that. Thanks anyway! But i do need to find a distributor for an R20 or early Fuego. I don't suppose you'd have a spare lying around Jo?

    Bobby, did you use the standard 505 ignition module, or does the R20/Fuego use a different system?
    Scotty

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    1969 Peugeot 504 - 'Pascal' - daily driver project

    1970 Peugeot 404 Utility - 'Brutus' - resto project

    1978 Peugeot 604 - as yet unnamed - V6 on straight LPG

    1987 Peugeot 505 - as yet unnamed - project car

    1999 Peugeot 406 Coupé - 'Chloe' - 5 speed manual

    2011 Peugeot 3008 XTE HDi - 'Zoe' - hatchback on steroids

    2014 Peugeot RCZ - 'Remy'

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    All my dizzies are little squat units that simply distribute the EI spark, whereas I believe the r20 is a points styled dizzy so twice as deep.

    What are you using it for??

    If you want a simple non points dizzy, i'd have one, but If you want the bigger poinbts unit, no luck with me...I used them all up making my autronic cam/crank sensor.

    There seems to be a subtle difference in the mounting screws too, between the ones that turn and the ones that dont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post
    All my dizzies are little squat units that simply distribute the EI spark, whereas I believe the r20 is a points styled dizzy so twice as deep.

    What are you using it for??

    If you want a simple non points dizzy, i'd have one, but If you want the bigger poinbts unit, no luck with me...I used them all up making my autronic cam/crank sensor.

    There seems to be a subtle difference in the mounting screws too, between the ones that turn and the ones that dont.

    Jo
    Hmm, that has me thinking.

    The 505 has an VR pickup in the distributor base, which drives the Bosch ignition module. I'm remembering now that the Fuego EI system is a little more complicated. What other components are in the system? What triggers the spark?

    I have a feeling that I may need the entire Fuego ignition system if I want to go this route. Or I could fit 505 distributor internals into an R20 points distributor.

    Basically I am using a 505 ZDJK engine fitted with a Fuego carb, however I cannot use the original distributor mounting position (under the carb).

    I have a bit of space at the back of the head between it and the firewall, though I would have to measure specifics.
    Scotty

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    1969 Peugeot 504 - 'Pascal' - daily driver project

    1970 Peugeot 404 Utility - 'Brutus' - resto project

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    1987 Peugeot 505 - as yet unnamed - project car

    1999 Peugeot 406 Coupé - 'Chloe' - 5 speed manual

    2011 Peugeot 3008 XTE HDi - 'Zoe' - hatchback on steroids

    2014 Peugeot RCZ - 'Remy'

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    fuego has a tdc pickup getting its signal from a toothed flywheel ring, a sealed in resin EI module which also houses the coil, then a dizzi to distribute the spark to the correct cylinder.
    I'd imagine the pug would not have the renault teeth on the flywheel.

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    Thanks Jo, i thought that might be the case. You are of course correct, the Peugeot engine does not have any extra teeth on the flywheel for a pickup, nor any facility in the bellhousing to mount a sensor.

    Looks like I might have to track down an R20 points distributor, and either use the points or convert it to 505 electronic ignition internals.

    Thanks for your help Jo, and Bobby.
    Scotty

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    1956 Peugeot 403 - 'Francois' - resto project

    1969 Peugeot 504 - 'Pascal' - daily driver project

    1970 Peugeot 404 Utility - 'Brutus' - resto project

    1978 Peugeot 604 - as yet unnamed - V6 on straight LPG

    1987 Peugeot 505 - as yet unnamed - project car

    1999 Peugeot 406 Coupé - 'Chloe' - 5 speed manual

    2011 Peugeot 3008 XTE HDi - 'Zoe' - hatchback on steroids

    2014 Peugeot RCZ - 'Remy'

    1999 Range Rover 4.6 HSE - 'Grover' - tow car

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    Icon14 Try Ken Bailey at Caravelle imports, he may be able to help.

    Have a talk to Ken Bailey at Caravelle Imports P/Ltd phone (03) 9890 9061
    14 Rowern Court Box Hill North 3129

    Ken is familiar with conversion of a Fuego to points ignition, and similarly will probably know what distributors that will do the job. More importantly how to do the job.

    We talked about it about 5 years (or more?) ago and at the time he had brand new distributors that could be used, he may even be able to advise a better unit to adapt to the.

    He has access to a vast quantity of new parts, and has always been great to help out. Ring during business hours Monday to Friday.

    Has a quick turn-a-round service on spares to our members across Australia.

    I have a PR 400 Electrical catalogue for Renault parts listings and the Fuego distributors (Ducellier)are illustrated at 17.55.0, but like all these catalogues, you need to be familiar with them to extract the information.

    Regards.

    Ken

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