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    Default legalities, engineering a citroen engine into a pug NSW

    Gti6's citroen equivalent into a 205, apart from the fact that it would need to be engineered if it was a gti6 engine, is there any hurdles being a different "make" as such, although being identical?

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    Nah; your main hurdle is that the power is increased by more than ten percent over the original most powerful motor they came with here.

    How are your insurers quoting?

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    I have not heard of a 10% power increase threshold.

    http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registrati...s_nov_2007.pdf

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    OK, fifteen percent - I was working off the top of my head.

    That document is not a complete list; it gives - by virtue of its own wording - "examples". According to the longer print version, when capacity or power increase don't exceed the percentage stated, it's owner certified. Call the RTA tech people for clarification, making sure you get the name and office location of your person on the line, then write to confirm the phone discussion (this takes a couple of weeks by when you receive acknowledgement).

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    My Insurers? I tell them its got a different engine, that is all they want to know really..GIO anyway, but cancelled the insurance while im changing the motor. Some people get away with just getting an engine number change apparently?
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    I couldn't give a rats about the "sky is falling; your insurer might deny a claim" type of bleating, my concerns would only rest on whether a modified vehicle that was not actually engineered when required, was involved in an incident where its driver may be exposed to the risk of prosecution. All the arguing would then be after the fact, and at great expense whether defence was successful or not.

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    Fair enough I suppose. I wont be able to do it anymore, but with the 1.9 mi16 i said its same capacity blah blah blah more powerful they said fine..oh well. I'll worry about it once the engines in lol
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    What are you people talking about?

    If it's less than 15% capacity increase you fit it, register it, insure it, drive it.

    It's that simple. Period.

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    Default Re: legalities, engineering a citroen engine into a pug NSW

    No-go with the gti6 engine then?

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    Did you fail Math?

    1905cc x 115% = 2190cc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Did you fail Math?

    1905cc x 115% = 2190cc

    ayayayayayayay settle petal, was aware of that rule, wasnt aware if there is anything to with manufacturers.

    I should just throw it in and worry about it later
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    Default legalities, engineering a citroen engine into a pug NSW

    I love the way people are so kind to each other on this forum... :p

    My "friend" just swapped the 1.7 motor/box/suspension in his sleeeeek black Renault 19 for the more powerful 1.8 assembly... I believe he is going to give them new 1.8 engine number along with "I changed the motor". As you do.
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    If you want to get on at the RTA regardless of what motor you end with, make sure you have a good sales receipt for it.
    They have a list of their requirements as to what info needs to be on the receipt and if it is not up to their standard they start throwing wall up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Did you fail Math?
    mmm..................

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