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    I finally got my 205 with it's new engine and Haltech 500 on the dyno last week. I came away with mixed results however, as the TDC sensor was playing up. There was a lot of interference/noise resulting in "missed" trigger events. With some massaging of the software we did get it working, but not over 6500. The result recorded was 123kW @ 6500. I'm happy with that, as it use to make 123kW @ 7500. So there's plenty left to find.

    Rather than use a Motronic sensor, Haltech suggested replacing it with a hall effect trigger that will fit in the same hole and use the Motronic teeth. It should be a lot more reliable with a 12V square wave. I have to make an adapter to mount it, then it's back to the dyno to finish off the mapping.

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    What was causing the noise - ignition?

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    Just a faulty sensor I hope.

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    Thats pretty impressive Peter, you will enjoy playing with the extra performance.

    Yesterday I was again in Cairns for the Auto Show Spectacular.
    Competed in the Time Trials again and had a ball exploring the handling potential of the 205.
    Nowhere near the limit yet but its so controllable and so much fun.

    One of the other events was a dyno shoot-out.
    $40.00 for a short run and printout.
    No way I was going to compete against the big horsepower vehicles there but I thought it was good value to get an idea of how the engine is performing.
    Came out at 122 HP at the wheels at a calculated 6,000 rpm and max torque of 173 FtLb around 5000 rpm.
    Strangely there is a dip in the torque curve between 3,000 and 4,000 rpm, just where the seat of the pants tells you that its comming on strong.
    The dyno operator advised that the figures for both HP and Torque were conservative as the car had to be driven up onto the dyno instead of backed up so that the front wheels were in contact with the rollers. This meant that the wheels were trying to climb up onto the idler roller instead of the grouved sensor roller.

    Its a small world. The dyno operator is the son of the previous owner of "French Connection".

    Peter, assuming the calculated rpm is correct (no electrical connections were made to engine) would the chip you sell for use in conjunction with your cam give more HP at higher revs.
    The type of competion I'm doing benefits from low rev torque in second gear, would the chip compromise that?

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    122hp (or 91kW) is very good for a DFW with just an inlet cam change. The chip improves midrange torque by revised ignition timing.

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    Thanks Peter I will check out which computer it has and get back to you with an order.

    Could I get your opinion on the dip in the torque curve please.
    Is this the way it should be?
    I'm guessing your chip would correct the dip?


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    Default Re: Track Car Dyno Results

    Thread hijack

    Peter I am fitting a platinum 1000 to my hti6 in a few weeks, should I be getting the same hall effect sensor or will I be okay with the oem one?

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    Attached is a DFW showing standard and Stage I inlet. The dip is natural and is caused by the lack of CR. The D6C is flatter. The chip certainly improves that area, but not as much as a good dose of compression.

    Kyle, your TDC sensor should be fine. I've used the OEM sensor many times. Since I have to buy a new one, I thought I'd go hall effect.
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    Ever get this back on the dyno with the new sensor Peter?

    What block/heads are you using in the 205 these days?

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    No, haven't been back to the dyno. The miss turned out to be from a faulty cam sensor. It now pulls cleanly to 8000, so it would pull more than 123kW. Block is S16, head is Mi16 with mods.

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    I'm in PNG at the moment so don't have access to data, but I can tell you that the crang angle sensor in my XU9 is exactly the same as one from a Hyundai Excel. When the part comes in the Korean bag, it is much MUCH cheaper than the French model. I'm pretty certain i have posted the part number here once before - so you may be able to find it via search tool - if it is of any interest.
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    1:59:09 last time at Phillip Island - less than standard Mi16.

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    The XU10 cam angle sensor is also identical to Hyundai.

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    Damn, Ken W just imported a couple of spare Xu10 CAS. I hope he doesn't read this

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    Some prices to compare. I like the little stubby ones without the flying lead. Looks like they would work.

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