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    Hi

    I need some help.

    Can anyone tell me how to change the transmission fluid on a Fluence automatic (CVT)?

    What Transmission fluid do you use?

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    How do you know how much fluid is required?

    Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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    My guess (if Renault followed the same path they did with the Laguna) is that you will have been graced with a "sealed for life" transmission - thus with no drain plug

    When I asked the dealer workshop - at the time of the last service done on my 2008 Laguna during the warranty period - about checking/changing transmission fluid I was told "No need, Sir - transmission is sealed for life!". I did not believe that - and some time later found an auto trans specialist who knew the correct spec fluid to use (important) and how to drain/refill. (That story here.)

    DIY seems not to be a wise option for these "sealed" units as one has to know which bolt/plug to take out and which not (!) in doing the service. I'd be looking for an auto trans specialist who has strong experience with Euro cars - so talk with them thoroughly before you hand your car over!

    That said, you may find some guidance on correct spec fluid here.

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    I suspect the Nissan Sentra/ Altima is the same vehicle.

    I'd compare your vehicle to one this clip:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhOFQKvB-QQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    I suspect the Nissan Sentra/ Altima is the same vehicle.

    I'd compare your vehicle to one this clip:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhOFQKvB-QQ
    So in that case not "sealed for life ..." How sensible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IWS View Post
    So in that case not "sealed for life ..." How sensible!
    Japanese designed and manufactured ?

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    robmac Yes it is a Japanese unit it is a Jatco JF 011 E Yes watch the video he seems to be quite component and sensible in his approach. You will also note he uses a valvoline product and not Nissan (Renault is even more insane cost wise).. You can use any of the main oil companies that have a CVT product for this unit. Sealed for life! Absolute bull twang for Aussie conditions, all fluids degrade with age and heat, the filled for life was a German concept by ZF where most Germans don’t keep cars for any length of time and they certainly don’t get our temps as they drive around Muchen.. Fluid level is crucial especially on more modern transmissions where there is a very small difference between just right and not enough, check check and check again after a couple of drives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robint View Post
    robmac Yes it is a Japanese unit it is a Jatco JF 011 E Yes watch the video he seems to be quite component and sensible in his approach. You will also note he uses a valvoline product and not Nissan (Renault is even more insane cost wise).. You can use any of the main oil companies that have a CVT product for this unit. Sealed for life! Absolute bull twang for Aussie conditions, all fluids degrade with age and heat, the filled for life was a German concept by ZF where most Germans don’t keep cars for any length of time and they certainly don’t get our temps as they drive around Muchen.. Fluid level is crucial especially on more modern transmissions where there is a very small difference between just right and not enough, check check and check again after a couple of drives.
    FWIW, on my Toyota Estima, I simply measured what I drained and put the same volume back in.
    I new bothered with Toyota type 1V fluid and used Penrite Full synthetic. You need three changes a few hundred K's apart when changing from type Iv to Penrite.

    Trans was always smooth and cost of fluid was reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    Japanese designed and manufactured ?
    Yes, but so is the Jatco "sealed for life" transmission in the Laguna. Perhaps Jatco saw the silliness of the "sealed for life" concept and abandoned it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IWS View Post
    Yes, but so is the Jatco "sealed for life" transmission in the Laguna. Perhaps Jatco saw the silliness of the "sealed for life" concept and abandoned it?
    Hi
    The transmission manufacturers do not set the service intervals on their own, the vehicle manufacturers do this and decide how they may get the cars back in for service or use the lack of it for advertising fodder. Blame Renault (and the others too) for the sealed approach.
    Nothing is sealed anyway as a failure under warranty will require some opening of the unit. It is just the plugs and the dipstick that are missing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IWS View Post
    Yes, but so is the Jatco "sealed for life" transmission in the Laguna. Perhaps Jatco saw the silliness of the "sealed for life" concept and abandoned it?
    Not entirely. I believe the later models of the Nissan CVTs dispensed with the filler tube and dipstick.

    Which would seem to suggest it's considered a sealed for (short) life trans.

    And Nissan probably saved a few cents too.

    And reading Nissan forums, dealers are being reluctant to changeil oil in the CVTs, ever when specifically requested by owners.

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