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    Default F1 - 2020 Testing - Mercedes new trombone steering wheel

    Mercedes appears to have a steering wheel which the driver slides forwards/backwards. The following video discusses the new system

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_uKHNJLSQs

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    Something else for them to ban.
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    That depends on:-

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    2/ How hard/expensive it is to copy
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    Mercedes has often struggled with tyre temperatures even though they keep winning. This sounds like a bit of a fairy dust solution when the suspension itself could produce the required toe-in toe-out with simple geometry and suspension location changes. I think it must be something else........
    Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone............

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    Who knows, maybe even a red herring to take the attention away from something that really matters, or give the opposition an opportunity to waste resources trying to figure it out, time will tell.
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    Yeah! Like Rauno Aaltonen and his left foot braking in the Mini Coopers. When he had perfected it himself (took years) he made it public and everyone else went backwards trying to copy him.........
    Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone............

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    It's pretty easy. I have left foot braked my whole life.

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    Oh, but only in automatics. Did I mention that?
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    I first saw this last night, and feel sure that the F1 reporter in this article does not know the difference between Toe-Out and Camber and gets it confused.

    https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...taFZPCKC4.html

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    "Typically an F1 car will be set up so that its front wheels are aligned with ‘toe-out’, which simply means that they splay out at the bottom away from the centre of the car, with the top pointing inwards. (Me: This is Negative Camber??)
    However, this means that on the straight the inner edge of the tyre’s tread surface is being heated up more than is the remainder of its width. (Me: This can occur with both toe-out and negative camber)
    If the Mercedes mechanism works as assumed, the tyres will be heated more evenly across their width as they run fully upright (Me: Less negative camber??), but the benefits of toe-out can still be deployed into the corner. It will be of particular benefit on circuits with long straights."

    In my experience, toe-out can affect corner turn-in, but is definitely less stable in a straight line. An interesting way to overcome this to get the best of both worlds. Very simple solution. How effective it is may become apparent.

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    Just as well there is no reader comment section after his article! It would be a massacre.
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    I was reading an interview with Bottas in Finnish media, his early impression of the new car was that the rear end felt more planted than previously

    re left foot braking. The cause and effect of left foot braking in a RWD tarmac car and a front wheel drive rally car are very different. In a FWD rally car they brake and accelerate at the same time. The driving front wheel overcome the brakes, while the rear locks up as in a handbrake turn. I have seen some photos front night sections with of Minis with bright red glowing discs.
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    Default More on the Merc DAS system

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    Quote Originally Posted by COL View Post
    Something else for them to ban.
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    That depends on:-

    1/ If it works
    2/ How hard/expensive it is to copy
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    Looks like we are right
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