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JoBo said:
Considering that many dealers charge $180+ for diagnosing or deleting codes (e.g. service codes) a few 100 $ is going to amortize relatively. quickly. Our local independent charges $80 or 85 for diagnostic but is willing to scratch the charge if he gets the work.
Don't think the plain code readers are much chop on late model cars?
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Ross Tech lite for VAG is only $100 US ($143 Australian).

It's intuitive to use, stable and on runs on almost all varieties of Windows.

Well worth having IMO,
 
The simple code readers, say $50 up can read and reset all standard OBD codes. If that's all that is needed,even Aldi can supply. Many diagnoses need sensor readings etc.

The best PSA software, whether Diagbox, or Delphi, comes by a backdoor sale by an anonymous ebay vendor, often in China.

Some freeware can read some universal, not maker specific, sensors, eg the Python code I linked to. Here is a piece of the source of one module:
Code: 
SENSORS = [
    Sensor("          Supported PIDs", "0100", hex_to_bitstring  ,""       ), 
    Sensor("Status Since DTC Cleared", "0101", dtc_decrypt       ,""       ), 
    Sensor("DTC Causing Freeze Frame", "0102", cpass             ,""       ), 
    Sensor("      Fuel System Status", "0103", cpass             ,""       ),
    Sensor("   Calculated Load Value", "0104", percent_scale     ,""       ), 
    Sensor("     Coolant Temperature", "0105", temp              ,"C"      ),
    Sensor("    Short Term Fuel Trim", "0106", fuel_trim_percent ,"%"      ),
    Sensor("     Long Term Fuel Trim", "0107", fuel_trim_percent ,"%"      ),
    Sensor("    Short Term Fuel Trim", "0108", fuel_trim_percent ,"%"      ),
    Sensor("     Long Term Fuel Trim", "0109", fuel_trim_percent ,"%"      ),
    Sensor("      Fuel Rail Pressure", "010A", cpass             ,""       ),
    Sensor("Intake Manifold Pressure", "010B", intake_m_pres     ,"psi"    ),
    Sensor("              Engine RPM", "010C", rpm               ,""       ),
    Sensor("           Vehicle Speed", "010D", speed             ,"MPH"    ),
    Sensor("          Timing Advance", "010E", timing_advance    ,"degrees"),
    Sensor("         Intake Air Temp", "010F", temp              ,"C"      ),
    Sensor("     Air Flow Rate (MAF)", "0110", maf               ,"lb/min" ),
    Sensor("       Throttle Position", "0111", throttle_pos      ,"%"      ),
    Sensor("    Secondary Air Status", "0112", cpass             ,""       ),
    Sensor("  Location of O2 sensors", "0113", cpass             ,""       ),
    Sensor("        O2 Sensor: 1 - 1", "0114", fuel_trim_percent ,"%"      ),
    Sensor("        O2 Sensor: 1 - 2", "0115", fuel_trim_percent ,"%"      ),
    Sensor("        O2 Sensor: 1 - 3", "0116", fuel_trim_percent ,"%"      ),
    Sensor("        O2 Sensor: 1 - 4", "0117", fuel_trim_percent ,"%"      ),
    Sensor("        O2 Sensor: 2 - 1", "0118", fuel_trim_percent ,"%"      ),
    Sensor("        O2 Sensor: 2 - 2", "0119", fuel_trim_percent ,"%"      ),
    Sensor("        O2 Sensor: 2 - 3", "011A", fuel_trim_percent ,"%"      ),
    Sensor("        O2 Sensor: 2 - 4", "011B", fuel_trim_percent ,"%"      ),
    Sensor("         OBD Designation", "011C", cpass             ,""       ),
    Sensor("  Location of O2 sensors", "011D", cpass             ,""       ),
    Sensor("        Aux input status", "011E", cpass             ,""       ),
    Sensor(" Time Since Engine Start", "011F", sec_to_min        ,"min"    ),
    Sensor("  Engine Run with MIL on", "014E", sec_to_min        ,"min"    ),

    ]

I suppose in the end it depends on your needs. Serious mechanics will go for Diagbox or Delphi, despite their origins.
 
Shipment of large Kirovets imported last year. East European tractors were strong, no nonsense, logically designed, gave good service in Australia particularly the Czechoslovak Zetor from 1968 and Soviet tractors sold under the Belarus brand from 1977. Most were in fact MTZ's from Minsk so the brand was accurate. Hard to sell Soviet stuff against political headwinds, 1979 the Soviet Union was featured nation at Sydney Easter Show, shipload of equipment sent out for display and Fraser banned it from landing. Don't need lots of complication in general purpose tractors of 100-150 hp.
JD is throwing its lot in with corporate agricultural systems that are against the interest of family farms both in the U.S. and Australia. Not too flash for consumers or the countryside either.
 
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