weber on a 504

cane toad

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The 504 I just bought (the wagon from canberra) has a weber carbi fitted, but to me it looks like it is on the wrong way around. The accelerator cable does a big loop and connects from the left hand side, the fuel line joins the carbi above the dissy, even with my limited mechanical knowledge I would guess that this is not ideal. Is it possible to give the carbi a 180 degree turn? This would place the throttle on the front as opposed to the rear as normal, but cable and fuel line would be coming in more or less like a standard set up. Apart from that it goes really well, I have never driven a peugeot as powerful as this one I haven't done enough k's to ascertain what sort of cosumption it has but I very much doubt if it is like "uncle scrooge" the 504 GL tandem carbi my wife drives. May be her frugality will counter balance my power lust. regards cane toad
 
cane toad said:
The 504 I just bought (the wagon from canberra) has a weber carbi fitted, but to me it looks like it is on the wrong way around. The accelerator cable does a big loop and connects from the left hand side, the fuel line joins the carbi above the dissy, even with my limited mechanical knowledge I would guess that this is not ideal. Is it possible to give the carbi a 180 degree turn? This would place the throttle on the front as opposed to the rear as normal, but cable and fuel line would be coming in more or less like a standard set up. Apart from that it goes really well, I have never driven a peugeot as powerful as this one I haven't done enough k's to ascertain what sort of cosumption it has but I very much doubt if it is like "uncle scrooge" the 504 GL tandem carbi my wife drives. May be her frugality will counter balance my power lust. regards cane toad

where is the float bowl ?
is it towards the front or rear of the carb
if it is towards the front then leave it
 
cane toad said:
The 504 I just bought (the wagon from canberra) has a weber carbi fitted, but to me it looks like it is on the wrong way around. The accelerator cable does a big loop and connects from the left hand side, the fuel line joins the carbi above the dissy, even with my limited mechanical knowledge I would guess that this is not ideal. Is it possible to give the carbi a 180 degree turn? This would place the throttle on the front as opposed to the rear as normal, but cable and fuel line would be coming in more or less like a standard set up. Apart from that it goes really well, I have never driven a peugeot as powerful as this one I haven't done enough k's to ascertain what sort of cosumption it has but I very much doubt if it is like "uncle scrooge" the 504 GL tandem carbi my wife drives. May be her frugality will counter balance my power lust. regards cane toad

If this is a pre 1979 motor (round port) the carby primary barrel MUST be be furthest from the head. If not the carby will feed through the
wrong holes, that is the primary through the two large ports and secondary through the single smaller one.
This is probably the reason the carby seems to have put on the wrong way around. I consider the port issue to be much more important than anything to do with the float chamber.

Graham Wallis.
 
GRAHAM WALLIS said:
If this is a pre 1979 motor (round port) the carby primary barrel MUST be be furthest from the head. If not the carby will feed through the
wrong holes, that is the primary through the two large ports and secondary through the single smaller one.
This is probably the reason the carby seems to have put on the wrong way around. I consider the port issue to be much more important than anything to do with the float chamber.

Graham Wallis.

the thing about the float chamber is that if it is facing backwards then fuel will be away from the jets
hence the reason i asked which way it was facing
 
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The float bowl is on the front as the set up is now, as to wether it's a round or square port head I have no idea, it is a 1980 wagon does that mean anything? regards ,cane toad.
 
cane toad said:
The float bowl is on the front as the set up is now, as to wether it's a round or square port head I have no idea, it is a 1980 wagon does that mean anything? regards ,cane toad.
To Canetoad, As mentioned previously and mentioned all the time in the Weber book put out by one of those Technical Publications mob, the float bowl has to be towards the front of the car. I am assuming it is a DGAV off a Cortina ? Bob D
 
Bob D said:
To Canetoad, As mentioned previously and mentioned all the time in the Weber book put out by one of those Technical Publications mob, the float bowl has to be towards the front of the car. I am assuming it is a DGAV off a Cortina ? Bob D

If it is a 1980 model it should have the square port head and the
gas flow will be through the same ports for both barrels so you only
need to worry about the float chamber.

Graham Wallis
 
Looks like it will stay the way it is as the float bowl is definatley on the forward side of the carbi. The fuel line enters on the right hand side, it would be better if it came in from the left,There is a Y shaped set up for the fuel entry the right side in use ,the left side left blank. Would it be possibie to reverse this by blocking of the right and fitting the line to the other, would this effect the functioning of the carbi. Changing this around would move the fuel line and filter away from the distributor. regards, cane toad.
 
cane toad said:
Looks like it will stay the way it is as the float bowl is definatley on the forward side of the carbi. The fuel line enters on the right hand side, it would be better if it came in from the left,There is a Y shaped set up for the fuel entry the right side in use ,the left side left blank. Would it be possibie to reverse this by blocking of the right and fitting the line to the other, would this effect the functioning of the carbi. Changing this around would move the fuel line and filter away from the distributor. regards, cane toad.

Yeah, it can be done, but I'd recommend an experienced Weber place do the job, otherwise you might end up with a leak all over your dissy.

The 2 litre Cortina/Escort version of the Weber has the pipe coming in the other side. This is what I'm currently using. Providing your weber is a 32/36 DGV or DGAV, you might be able to ick up a cheap Cortina/Escort carby and swap the tops over.

Dave
 
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So what sort of cortina or escort would I be looking for when I go to the wreckers.Year of manufacture and type would give me a point to start looking from. regards cane toad.
 
cane toad said:
So what sort of cortina or escort would I be looking for when I go to the wreckers.Year of manufacture and type would give me a point to start looking from. regards cane toad.

A 1972-june 1976 2 litre Cortina (i.e. TC or TD) has the best carby top.

A july1976-1983 2 litre Cortina (TD, TE, or TF) or 2 litre Escort (any year) has a top which will also fit, but it a has a few daggy extra pipes and garbage hanging off it.

Make sure you're carby is definitely a DGV or DGAV. If it is a DFV, DFAV or something else, the Cortina/Escort carby top won't fit.

Dave
 
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