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Transport of horses is quite unlike moving other large animals. People have a close relationship with their horses, more like that with dogs. I have a stock horse living in my garden now that talks quietly to me, insists on drinking from the bird bath, steals food from any meal eaten outside and sneaks inside if a door is left open. When moving them we have to make sure that all equipment is in good order because break downs create a difficult problem and accidents are a very bad situation. For the horse and the owner. Wheel bearings fail, linkages disconnect or break, there are all sorts of matters to consider in making sure the transport is safe.
 
For instance, re timing belts vs chains discussion, I recently replaced the timing chains on my nephew's V6 Commode, 2006 with only 115k kms on the odometer. Probably suffered from low usage, very sludged up, but nevertheless it is a common and known fault. Very lucky to escape major damage, one chain had worn enough to jump several teeth on a cam gear, just caught it in time. I got a genuine repair kit (it comes as a kit it is such a common problem!) and with no labour charge, but with new oil & filter, sparkplugs, coolant, etc, cost $1200. Apparently a dealer will charge $2500 to $4000 for the job. This engine has 3 chains, pissy little 12mm wide Morse segment type, a good engine design ruined by cost-cutting in the timing chain Dept.
Fordman, after I read that, I had a look at the ebay special price on these kits, and they are about $250 with new bolts and the full shooting match. I am guessing from what you're saying, that the genuine kit must have been up around $900 to $1000? Being a cheap skate I have always used non genuine parts and never noticed the difference. I recently put a $100 radiator in my Landcruiser, vs the $1200 quote for OEM installed by a 4wd specialist. That is quite a difference! Then again, I don't fit enough parts to cars for a decent statistical sample.

So I am interested in your opinion of OEM vs aftermarket for items like that timing chain kit, given the hefty price premium.
Would you typically pay the extra for genuine, or was someone else making that decision in the case you mentioned?

Thanks
 
Fordman, after I read that, I had a look at the ebay special price on these kits, and they are about $250 with new bolts and the full shooting match. I am guessing from what you're saying, that the genuine kit must have been up around $900 to $1000? Being a cheap skate I have always used non genuine parts and never noticed the difference. I recently put a $100 radiator in my Landcruiser, vs the $1200 quote for OEM installed by a 4wd specialist. That is quite a difference! Then again, I don't fit enough parts to cars for a decent statistical sample.

So I am interested in your opinion of OEM vs aftermarket for items like that timing chain kit, given the hefty price premium.
Would you typically pay the extra for genuine, or was someone else making that decision in the case you mentioned?

Thanks

Surely a car running perfectly with a non OEM timing chain kit is worth more to sell than a car with a worn-out, rattly or broken OEM chain?
 
Fordman, after I read that, I had a look at the ebay special price on these kits, and they are about $250 with new bolts and the full shooting match. I am guessing from what you're saying, that the genuine kit must have been up around $900 to $1000? Being a cheap skate I have always used non genuine parts and never noticed the difference. I recently put a $100 radiator in my Landcruiser, vs the $1200 quote for OEM installed by a 4wd specialist. That is quite a difference! Then again, I don't fit enough parts to cars for a decent statistical sample.

So I am interested in your opinion of OEM vs aftermarket for items like that timing chain kit, given the hefty price premium.
Would you typically pay the extra for genuine, or was someone else making that decision in the case you mentioned?

Thanks
All of us know of course that 'OEM' means something manufactured by the chosen subcontractor to the company assembling the original. Perfectly possible it's the same part, one in a box saying 'Citroen' or 'Mitsubishi' etc, etc the other in differently branded packaging. Even though 'Kelloggs' scream "we don't make cornflakes for anyone else" on their package, Aldi's taste just as good to my {admittedly ancient} tastebuds :p. I guess what you're really getting for all those extra $ is the knowledge that the spare has definitely passed the same quality standards as original, but you'd hope that brands stocked by reputable suppliers would be at least as good.
Regards,
Rob
 
A prime mover might have a GVM of 12 tonnes and a GCM of 62.5 tonnes as a B-Double. Explain how your theory works there, Schlitzy!
you're not comparing apples to apples ..... I'd prefer the tow car to be much heavier than the towed load. Especially if the towed load is a big wind sail area.

Your argument has merit if we all start building and towing 5th wheel setups :)
 
The Ford F250 was subject to consumer legal action in Australia because the chassis was so weak. Load a 1000kg bulka bag and if the loader was rough lowering it the chassis broke. The F150 was popular with horse people and often used for goose necks.
 
Fordman, after I read that, I had a look at the ebay special price on these kits, and they are about $250 with new bolts and the full shooting match. I am guessing from what you're saying, that the genuine kit must have been up around $900 to $1000? Being a cheap skate I have always used non genuine parts and never noticed the difference. I recently put a $100 radiator in my Landcruiser, vs the $1200 quote for OEM installed by a 4wd specialist. That is quite a difference! Then again, I don't fit enough parts to cars for a decent statistical sample.

So I am interested in your opinion of OEM vs aftermarket for items like that timing chain kit, given the hefty price premium.
Would you typically pay the extra for genuine, or was someone else making that decision in the case you mentioned?

Thanks

Appreciate the comments, but trying not to go too far off topic, as my post was in relation to the extended warranty periods possibly being justified by the large unexpected cost of some repairs on modern engines, and its relevance to choosing a new vehicle, I am going to re-open the off-topic timing chain OEM discussion in The Toad Pond, if that's OK.
Cheers.
 
We had 2L Amarok from 2013-2016. Of all the dual cabs I tested it stood out as the far superior choice if you value any kind of ride, handling and quietness in the cabin. We did 120k in it over 3 years and it towed a big van easily, was great on fuel and aside from silly little warranty fixes was reliable and a pleasure to own. VW were rubbish to deal with though which soured the experience. Still, if I had to buy a dual cab again I wouldn't look past the V6 Amarok I reckon. Manual. Base spec. It would do the job nicely.
 
Transport of horses is quite unlike moving other large animals. People have a close relationship with their horses, more like that with dogs. I have a stock horse living in my garden now that talks quietly to me, insists on drinking from the bird bath, steals food from any meal eaten outside and sneaks inside if a door is left open. When moving them we have to make sure that all equipment is in good order because break downs create a difficult problem and accidents are a very bad situation. For the horse and the owner. Wheel bearings fail, linkages disconnect or break, there are all sorts of matters to consider in making sure the transport is safe.
Do horses have wheel bearings?
Wonders never cease ;)

Dave
 
Do horses have wheel bearings?
Wonders never cease ;)

Da
If only they did have a system as cheap as a wheel bearing to replace. Their shock absorbing equipment is limited for travel.
But back to the comment: I have read what I wrote, subject and predicate, and nowhere is the horse the subject of the wheel bearing comment. But I don't have my Fowlers Modern English Usage open when I write but as this is the internet I obviously should.
I was warned about the dangers of a misdirected subject many years ago by a teacher who was of the same vintage as the Fowler Brothers.
 
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All of us know of course that 'OEM' means something manufactured by the chosen subcontractor to the company assembling the original. Perfectly possible it's the same part, one in a box saying 'Citroen' or 'Mitsubishi' etc, etc the other in differently branded packaging. Even though 'Kelloggs' scream "we don't make cornflakes for anyone else" on their package, Aldi's taste just as good to my {admittedly ancient} tastebuds :p. I guess what you're really getting for all those extra $ is the knowledge that the spare has definitely passed the same quality standards as original, but you'd hope that brands stocked by reputable suppliers would be at least as good.
Regards,
Rob
Not intending to go off topic again, but just to address the issue raised by more than one, on this thread.

Tradesmen & licensed mechanics (as in NSW my Lic. No. MVIC 49593) need to guarantee their work.
So OEM is the way they will go, if they're smart.

Using other than OEM can (& often does) cause a come back or re-do & some parts don't even fit properly.
A customer doesn't expect to contribute to such an unfortunate (costly) event like timing belt or chain & engine failure for example.

Others may experiment & fit anything cheap off e-Bay on their own vehicle @ their own risk & many do.
 
If only they did have a system as cheap as a wheel bearing to replace. Their shock absorbing equipment is limited for travel.
But back to the comment: I have read what I wrote, subject and predicate, and nowhere is the horse the subject of the wheel bearing comment. But I don't have my Fowlers Modern English Usage open when I write but as this is the internet I obviously should.
I was warned about the dangers of a misdirected subject many years ago by a teacher who was of the same vintage as the Fowler Brothers.
Did they play for Australia? 🏏
 
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