My new challenge - 1964 ID19F Safari

Budge, I think I found the missing link... for the dash. Monopol Valcrepe VK 8538 paint! Available in black and grey.


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He describes the whole process, good detail pictures and even the MSDS. I doubt I will get this in Australia, but let’s see what I can work out...
 
Been googling for Monopol paint for a while now without any luck... following links on a few other websites though, there seem to be a company in France that specialises in this paint.

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they show an “ochre” colour picture (4th swatch from the left, second row) that may be close to AC 135 Gris Claire ... or at least close enough to paint over it.

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closer for you to trial Budge and report back? 😬😬😬
 
The Christmas break has been useful to work my way through all the small items, rubbers, interior parts and the like.

the dash top and knee rail got reupholstered in black vinyl, with a nicer grain than the previous choice

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The exhaust shields got a coat of heat resistant silver as well. My top shield (the one on the bottom left) isn’t in good condition and I also don’t think it is the correct one anyway... might have to go hunting for a better/correct one.
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All the labels, choke pull and brass switch surrounds were cleaned and tidied up.
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The aluminium chassis number was the first part to be reinstalled.... downhill from here: how exciting!
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The glove box will hopefully be pushed back into the right shape by soaking it in water to make it pliable and then drying it out locked into its new shape.
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All the dash plastics needed a coat of gloss black as they were too scratched and faded.
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The rear view mirror got a coat of black wrinkle paint as well.
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Also cleaned up the headlight surrounds, muffler, sun visors, all sorts of small rubbers and more. Am almost through the lot, ready to start reassembly
A few items will need rechroming, some more boxes of parts need electroplating, but all in all, progress has been good.

Sven
 
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SCORE!!!!

found a colour swatch set and a fabric set from 1967 on eBay - now I have actual samples of some of the colours I am considering. Bleu D’Orient with possibly viel d’or fabric... or red jersey after all? Or blue on blue... plenty of time left to decide.
but at least I don’t have to second guess anymore what the colours look like in real life.

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if anyone wants access to the colours let me know, I am sure we can work something out... nuancierds.fr lists all the colours for 67.

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Budge,

here maybe another option for the ID dash - Interpon make a powder coat in “ripple” called Dune Textura GL352A. The colour is a good match, the texture not as rippled as the one that the wrinkle-effect.fr guys produce, but their colour doesn’t seem to match...

So this may be a decent compromise!?
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the blue on blue would be my pick. Fabric won't show up grime as much too.
 
Budge,

here maybe another option for the ID dash - Interpon make a powder coat in “ripple” called Dune Textura GL352A. The colour is a good match, the texture not as rippled as the one that the wrinkle-effect.fr guys produce, but their colour doesn’t seem to match...

So this may be a decent compromise!?

Thanks for thinking of me. Yes, that sample does seem to be a good match, even if the texture/ pattern is not quite there. A little smooth perhaps. At a simple level i suspect that if you sprayed the right wrinkle (but wrong colour) with the right colour - it would come out looking something like this.

That paint swatch of yours is an amazing find! I've been after one of those for my 1968 for ages! There is one to view on one of the sites on line, but it's not the same as holding it in your hand.
 
Before starting the reassembly I thought it might make it easier if I lay out all the parts and try to group them. Sorting and finding the right bolts and screws will be another fun part...

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refurbishing the b pillar trim, which was badly stained and broken, was the next job. I strengthened the plastic with a strip on sheet metal and redrill the holes for the seat belts. I then also painted the dash parts, steering wheel, and other associated parts that needed a coat of gloss Dune paint, a close match to Gris Claire AC135.

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My attempt to flock (not flog) the glove box with beige flocking ended up in a patchy mess - not a great first attempt.. not enough glue me thinks...

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Might rethink my approach - maybe I line the glovebox with fabric or else... TBC.

Sven
 
After painting the dashboard and b pillar plastics, it was time to tackle the rebuild of the hydraulics. The pressure regulator was first. Assembly was simple, but I have to get the cut in/out pressures checked to make sure they are correct for the Safari.

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Reassembling the pump was a little trickier, especially after finding one of the needles popped out - which I luckily found on the work shop floor! That would have been one noisy pump if I wouldn’t have found it. Well, Wolfgang Siem offered to test is as well before I finish painting it. Let’s hope it is ok.


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The two height correctors got a new set of covers and rings as well. Assembling the dash pots is not something for anyone with poor eye sight... tiny little shims!

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Next up was the break pedal cluster. I Reassembled it with new seals and set it up with the same measurements as when I pulled it apart, so I hope the pressure distribution is close to what it needs to be as the adjustment procedure reads too tricky and needs the right gear.


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I started the assembly trying to wrestle the return line snake and fuel line into the right hand sill. After a couple of false starts I worked it out and, using refurbished clips and rubbers, all settled into place where it should.

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Fitting the four hydraulic lines pack into the left hand sill was a tad easier, but working out what spaghetti pipe set fits where and belongs to what will test my memory and photo file - as mentioned before, some pipes have been crimped, blocked off and some changed... adding (re-adding?) the power steering adds another step of complexity. Might need some help at some stage if I get stuck!

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The rear is rather easy - loosely pre-assembled for now only until I am 100% sure the pipes are placed correctly.

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Slow going, but good fun - tests the mind!!!

Sven
 
What better to do than assemble a Safari in lockdown 3.0... at least I won’t get bored.

after fabricating the missing (?) spaghetti bracket, the hydraulics are now in place.

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Rear suspension cylinders all reassembled, ready to go back in.

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Rear axles, suspension and fuel pipes and breathers all in place. The brakes still have to be adjusted. Not sure yet what tools I need, as all videos are based on the later 5 stud wheels. Anyway, will work it out when I get to it.

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Installing the fuel tank was pretty straight forward. I was a bit worried to work out how much fuel line has to be poked into the tank... but interestingly, the fuel line gets internally guided to the fuel filter. Once it pokes out the bottom of the tank it is right.

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Now, front cylinders - I thought I had it worked out, but might not have. I have new seals kits (o-ring, nylon seal and felt seal - but the older style cylinders have a conical spacer... can I use the nylon ring and o-ring in these, or do I need other type seals or newer style cylinders?

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Also time to assess the interior vinyl... besides a few small sections it is pretty much shot... time to order a new set from Richard at Citrotoon in Holland.

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It is good that the ID hasn’t got a lot of chrome, so I needed to redo only a few items: one headlight ring, both Marchals, and the gearshifter and vent rods.

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I found some grey vinyl that matches the original quite well, so recovered the back seat stops and rear lid bump pad.

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a new glass made the rear view mirror like new.

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And I also got the rims back from the powder coater. I decided to paint them in Grey Nurse, which is closest to Blanc Paros - With nice, polished small ID hubcaps it will look great. 50 shades of grey continues...

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It’s coming together nicely! Sven
 
I realize that you have chosen the paint colour Sven. I love the "ID Break" (DL 0 6 69) on page 95 in The Original Citroen DS book. The Buff colour looks stunning.
This separates the early ID from the later Safaris.
I do realize that the caption states that this Jonquill (AC 305) is a '58 '59 DS saloon colour.
I am pleased that you took on doing the restoration on my ex French Safari. It certainly was a hell of a lot worse than Tim and I ever imagined.
Good on you Sven .................... Michael
 
I realize that you have chosen the paint colour Sven. I love the "ID Break" (DL 0 6 69) on page 95 in The Original Citroen DS book. The Buff colour looks stunning.
This separates the early ID from the later Safaris.
I do realize that the caption states that this Jonquill (AC 305) is a '58 '59 DS saloon colour.
I am pleased that you took on doing the restoration on my ex French Safari. It certainly was a hell of a lot worse than Tim and I ever imagined.
Good on you Sven .................... Michael
Thanks Michael - yes, it may have been worse than you (and I) thought, but now that I am on the downhill towards the end (one day), it is a lot of fun and satisfying.

The yellow Safari with the red interior just doesn’t do it for me... I just feel the car is too big for a bright yellow or red or the like and that a darker colour will draw out the chrome/stainless and grey upper panels better. But that’s the nice part : anything goes on a Citroen!
 
Slowly but surely there is some progress. It is surprisingly slow going assembling the car... especially when, every now and then, you realise that there still an item missing or not ready for installation.

The clap hand wipers went in easily, I had it the wrong way round at first (not clapping), but after a bit of contemplation I worked it out.
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Installing the door seals and the small grey inner bead was trickier than I thought and bloody hard on your fingers - pushing , rolling, prodding the buggers into the channels and crimping them in place.

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I then picked up my set of spheres from Wolfgang Siem - he has been a great help, exchanging the diaphragms, cleaning up the segments, filling them to the right pressures and testing them.
He also tested my pump and regulator and all was good!
His tiny garden shed is jam packed with tools and parts. I have never seen a space better utilised.
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All the baubles, pump and regulator got a coat of gloss black and will be ready to go onto the car once I paint the blue and yellow rings on them.

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The small break accumulator back in place.

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Thanks to another Frogger: Brian Woodcock’s front cylinders arrived. A quick clean up, set of new seals and they are good to go.

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Many of the window winder mechanisms lost some of the felt pads for the glass. I got some left over felt from my wife, cut some pads and riveted them back on with aluminium rivets.
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After installing the rear lid seal (with a new foam insert) I tackled the lower rear lid, hinges and bumper. Careful not to scratch the new paint, the parts went together well and the lid shuts well and tight.
I added a few strengthening ribs inside the lid when I repaired it , so it hopefully will hold the weight of us humans when we sit on it, without flexing or denting.

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Finished the rear bumper this afternoon by adding the rubber buffers and all the brackets to it.

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As expected, the missing hydraulic bracket resurfaced after all - so I swapped out the homemade one for the correct one!

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A quick trip via Castlemaine to see Michael and to pick up a few missing items: Michael had a decent speedo glass, so all is good now. Certainly a lot better than mine after I tried to wash it!

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Michael also had a fanfare in one of his wrecks, so that came home as well and got a decent tidy up.
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He also provided the missing roof rack nuts and a white handbrake handle. Mine is broken, this one will hopefully last a while. Thanks Michael.

The absolute highlight of the week though was the arrival of the new wiring loom from US Aussiefrogger Hotrodelectric aka Bill Heacox - months ago Bill offered to make me a completely new wiring loom, and it finally arrived last week, shipped back from California!

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Bill has put in an extraordinary amount of work, all wires are labelled, documented and all switches checked and tested. Thank you Bill - you are a legend!

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I also ordered all the interior fabrics and vinyl from Richard at Citrotoon in Holland, as well as a few boxes of sound deadener and heat shield bitumen from Car Builders for the firewall, floors and roof.

TGA cables in Melbourne remade my clutch cable - looks suitable. We will see. $85 was a fair price.

Also quickly swung by the Victoria Citroen Club show at Sandringham. Unfortunately no Safaris, but a few nice DS and SM and an H-Van coffee van. And a few familiar faces to chat to...

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The medium of using pastels in the art world has a disadvantage in that. unlike oils or watercolour it doesn't "dry".
A spray of sealer after the work is finished prevents the pastel from scuffing when handled.
After you left today with the good speedo glass, I've been playing with the idea of spraying the reverse of the glass with a laquer to prevent the deterioration or the the numbers.
A risky business .......... probably ! The spray might discolour or disfigure the numbers even more.
Any thoughts on this ...................... Michael Paas
 
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