Hydraulic Line Repair: Canberra

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Hi All,

My Safari failed roadworthy today because the stoneguard (just in front of gearbox?) has been rubbing on one of four pipes leading to/from the accumulator (to brakes?). The stoneguard has now been cleared away, but not before it started a small leak in the pipe.

Options considered so far:

1. Local (Canberra) mechanic has suggested braizing the pipe - but wasn't too sure about it. My understanding is that it should at least be silver soldered.

2. Local brake specialists not interested in looking at it. (Surprise, surprise.)

3. Local Enzed is not licenced to look at a braking system. But, he's happy to look at this as it is not 'strictly' a braking ysytem. He has suggested - over the phone - that he can re-sheath the offending section of pipe.

4. Deliver the car to a Cit specialist in Sydney, but I'd dearly love to avoid this trip.

I've booked her in to Enzed on Saturday morning. I would dearly love to hear any constructive views on this option, as well as any alternatives.

Regards

Paul
 
Been there, done that, with a CX.
Cut pipe, fit a sleeve (neat fitting steel) over where it is damaged and cut, and use "brown tip" silver solder around the top and bottom of the sleeve.
Did mine at least 10 years ago, car is now written off but had no further problems with the pipe.

Alan S
 
Alan

Thanks for the tip. Looks like the way to go. I certainly apprecite advice from those who've 'been around'.

Cheers

Paul
 
Hi Paul,

sounds like a little 3.5mm line to me ?? If you tell me it's length I'll send you up a bit of line with a bubble flare at both ends. I have a few meters of the plastic coated hydraulic line in my shed and a 3.5mm bubble flare tool. You can simply bend the line to shape you end. It's very, very soft maliable (sp) line, so bending it will not be a problem.

Anyhow PM me if you want the line sent up.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, there's no such thing as a "minor" high pressure leak. Are you sure it not simply a weeping return line dripping from the high pressure line. It'll be spraying a mist of LHM everywhere at over 1000psi pressure emptying your reseviour in no time if this is truly a high pressure leak.

seeya,
Shane L.
 
DoubleChevron said:
...sounds like a little 3.5mm line to me ?? If you tell me it's length I'll send you up a bit of line with a bubble flare at both ends. I have a few meters of the plastic coated hydraulic line in my shed and a 3.5mm bubble flare tool. You can simply bend the line to shape you end. It's very, very soft maliable (sp) line, so bending it will not be a problem.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, there's no such thing as a "minor" high pressure leak. Are you sure it not simply a weeping return line dripping from the high pressure line. It'll be spraying a mist of LHM everywhere at over 1000psi pressure emptying your reseviour in no time if this is truly a high pressure leak.

seeya,
Shane L.
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Shane,

Thanks for the kind offer. I'll let you know how it goes.

The line in question appear to be a 3.5mm, rather than the 1/4 inch variety.

The line (one of a set of four) runs down as low as the the floorpan, before heading up to/from the accumulator and is in the centre of the engine bay (laterally). (Sorry, bad description.)

I haven't actually seen a 'spray' but there is edivence of a fresh fluid (maybe LHM?) on nearby components and of a long-term 'soaked-in' leak behind this area which has a spread. I've only just seen the teltail 'drip' when the car had been hoisted.

I've had some good offers of help, and the Enzed approach seems reasonable - provided I give them proper guidance.

Will post the results. In anticipation, I've already booked her in next Thursday for another inspection!

Any other thoughts always gladly reveived.

Cheers
 
the reason Enzed have a problem with it is because you will find that they don't have a mechanic there

i know this sounds strange but it's true

only licenced mechanics are allowed to perform paid work on braking systems and as such my mate that owns a pirtek store is also a mechanic and his son is a fitter/machinist

his son legally can not do any brake work yet the other one can

a sheath over the line will work no worries and it is a common practice

i have performed the same fix on many hydraulic lines

if you were in the southerm highlands i'd point you towards the pirtek there
 
pugrambo said:
the reason Enzed have a problem with it is because you will find that they don't have a mechanic there

i know this sounds strange but it's true

only licenced mechanics are allowed to perform paid work on braking systems and as such my mate that owns a pirtek store is also a mechanic and his son is a fitter/machinist

his son legally can not do any brake work yet the other one can

a sheath over the line will work no worries and it is a common practice

i have performed the same fix on many hydraulic lines

if you were in the southerm highlands i'd point you towards the pirtek there
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I was at Enzed today. He was *very* insistant that he didn't want to know about **ANYTHING** to do with 3.5mm pipe. 4.5mm was ok as it was so close to an imperial size it didn't matter.

seeya,
Shane L.
 
Mark at Enzed in Fyshwick will do his best to help you, he is a very honest guy. Got me a new finer filter made for the CX, as well as many other jobs in the past. BTW he loves fast boats (used to do bridge to bridge) and dont knock 4WD's as he like me is an instructor in one of the local clubs.
 
Hi All,

Just though I'd let you know that the leak was fixed; Sophie passed roadworthy, and she is now wearing ACT plates.

Originally I though the leak was goint o be a long 'rub' from the stoneguard, but when the pipes were removed, I found it to be quite a small nick where the edge of the stoneguard had been slowly cutting away. Anyway, Enzed Canberra provided the fix by silver soldering it. (For the grand total of $5!) Can highly recommend Mark and David and Enzed.

Roadworthy was a bit of an issue. For some reason (!) I decided to take Sophie over the ACT Gvt pit to get a roadworthy certificate. I would recommend others contemplating this not to. I found their advice on what needed to be fixed confusing and contradictory. One inspector would have passed her on one issue, but not the other, then when I took it back, the second issue had been fixed, but the first problem remained!

Anyway, I found a shop able to perform any minor adjustments that needed to be made BEFORE they issued the roadworthy certificate.

'DS 074' plates will be fitted as soon as they arrive!

Thanks to all who provideed information and support.

Cheers

Paul
 
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