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    GTi6 Review

    Alot of you have probably seen it but i just found it today. Its an old (1997) MOTOR magazine review of the N3 GTi6. Pretty interesting cause i havent seen it before....got a good review too. Go the Pugs hehe

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    Great writeup I hadn't seen it before.

    Isn't there another article someplace where an Australian motor racing pro compares the GTi6 against other cars like the WRX and Integra Type-R? If anyone has a copy of that, I'd love to read it
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    I have not seen that article before either. They really are a nice little hatch though arent they? peugeot_ peugeot_

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    rek:
    Great writeup I hadn't seen it before.

    Isn't there another article someplace where an Australian motor racing pro compares the GTi6 against other cars like the WRX and Integra Type-R? If anyone has a copy of that, I'd love to read it
    there is an article out there somwhere comparing the GTi-6 with the WRX held at eastern creek
    i am sure i have a copy of it here somewhere it's just a matter of trying to find it
    the article gave both cars a pretty good wrap but at the end of the day the GTi-6 was voted as more fun and was a quicker around the circuit than the WRX
    the WRX was quicker off the mark but lap times was where the GTi-6 made it's mark
    albeit the WRX has 4WD and turbo the GTi-6 N/A and FWD still was a better car in as far as lap times for the test
    i think it was in a fast fours magazine or something similar along those lines
    they also tested a 0-100 in the GTi-6 and got a 7.8sec time for it but they mentioned with delight that it left 2 nice black lines in it's wake
    they mentioned the only way they could get it to take off was to hold it on the red line and dump it
    it was a funny article to read but good to see that thw WRX wasn't as good a car as what everyone had thought when the two cars were pinned against each other
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    Err, the GTi6 doesn't have a Magnetti Marelli ECU, it uses a Bosch.
    Intersting too that this example ran Michelins when I'm pretty sure Oz only ever got P6000s, probably just a difference with the UK spec.

    Cool article, written back in the day when Motor had some class. All class just went out the window with their bagging of the ST170 last month. Read Wheels and they say it's one of the best ever FWD cars... this article just illustrates that Motor today is a pile of rubbish....sorry, pile of poo wink :p
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    According to this site:
    <a href="http://mypugclub.tripod.com/pcm/id23.html" target="_blank">http://mypugclub.tripod.com/pcm/id23.html</a>

    The 306 GTI6 has a Magnetti Marelli 1AP

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    fine, be like that :p

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    hehe i think the Bosh Magnetti system is combined. I look at my air flow meter on the 306 XR motor and it says magnetti but there is Bosch writing on another part of the ignition system too
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    Lincon, the car in the article was a N3 Gti-6 which we never got, and was basically my car with a 6-speed box. My car does use Magnetti ECU with both Bosch and MM products.... Where as your car had the N5 chassis and body, the better head, pistons, bosch ECU, better brakes (in terms of age of technology), better inlet and outle manifold and a LSD in the 6 spd box.
    That same write up was the deciding factor when i went looking for cars in 98....
    i have thought about getting a 6spd box with quaifeLSD from the UK which with gti-6 d/shafts will bolt straight into my car... cost pops that bubble.
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    XQ, I had my ECU out the other day when I was replacing the Thermostat and I think it was a Bosch unit, however I could be wrong. There is a site I have seen which gives the model numbers for all the Pug model ECU's. Ill see if I can track it down.

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    good to hear from you brad, alot of components are Bosch on our cars, but im pretty sure that the actual ecu (in that case behind the battery) is MM...
    Or maybe like all other 306's there is discrepency between models/parts??
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    Hey so xqisid did the GTi6 come with a LSD? The Australian ones too?

    You dont know how happy that makes me if they do
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    xqisid:
    Lincon, the car in the article was a N3 Gti-6 which we never got
    cheers Xq
    in fact there are some out here
    and as i have said it before beware of some '97 GTi-6's
    there was a dealer in sydney that jumped the start and had a few N3 GTi-6's
    i was warned about this when i started looking at getting one
    i heard they were heading to oz so i put my order in and recieved my little machine in '98 but i do remember standing in front of an N3 GTi-6 around sep/oct '97
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    in fact there are some out here
    and as i have said it before beware of some '97 GTi-6's
    Really? I remember years ago when i was 17 seeing a GTi6 in a car park and it i could of sworn it was a N3 chassis type(because of the different style badging)...but i read ages ago on these forums that the GTi6 only came in N5 form here.

    Thanks for that info though because i thought my mind was playing tricks on me wink
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    STOCK-14.006 @97.4mph HEATHCOTE
    STOCK-1:15 CALDER Long Circuit (Stock Street Tyres + Stock Pads :banghead )
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    From the rear the early N5's and the late N3 are almost alike, infact they are..... so make of that what you will.
    When i was car shopping in 98 i took that arcticle and whent to nearly every pug yard around town in my beat up old Alfa, all said that that shape(n3) never came in 6-spd to australia.
    If a few came through one paticular Yard then it was without Pug Concessonaries(spel?) knowlegde as one of the few to confirm this was Mr Shane Priest who was chairperson and ceo, at the time.
    Wonder if we will see one the all french car day??
    or the few 99 N5 gti6's that accindently got badged as S16's.... mmmmm cheers guys Xq
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    The N3/N5 debate is interesting, especially to those who've been in my car.

    My car is an N5... it has the N5 crystal style headlights and tail lights, the boot lid is N5 style as are the bumpers, the dash, the front doors and front window winders, the gas-strut bonnet stays, the 2.0L 16v engine and the newer 5 speed box with different/better gear ratios making 3rd gear much more useable.

    BUT I have an N3 rear parcel shelf, N3 gear shift and a strange combination of N3/N5 driving lights (they are N5 shape being round, but have N3 style ribbed lenses, not clear/crystal like N5's).

    One can only guess that Peugeot have a parts bin that the assembly line just takes bits out of as it goes? Either that, or someone stole the parcel shelf, gear stick and driving lights from my car and the previous owner replaced them with whatever they could find!?

    What is the significance of 306 GTI6's with the big red '6' badge as in this picture above. Are they just early models, or N3 models or what?

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    Derek, afaik, the big red6 was the first gen, gti-6's here in oz. they didn;t have the crystal lights but had solid on piece lights, with therond spots, they also had the balck trim along the bottomedge of the Hatch itself. Also they had a different stereo and had Michelins, not p6000 but tis varied almost monthly.. They also had diff badges and i think the fist gen didn't get a LSD... but don't quote me.
    Perhaps all us 306 owners should get together and compare.....lol
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    Derek - yours is a mix of predominently N5 and N5 update. Most of it is N5 though.

    Maybe we should check your car for evidence of a front/rear minor prang?

    The N5 update headlight's might have been cheaper then the glass N5 lights.

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    Derek, the 6 was used on the Gti-6 up until the N5 update in late 1999 (I think). Around the time the 206 GTi came out, they then changed the badge to the same silver badge that is on my old car and Tekkie's. AFAIK, the GTi6 that we got always came with the P6000s though.
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    ok guys
    mine is an N5 GTi-6
    it has the black along the bottom of the hatch
    a red 6 on the door
    the N3 GTi-6 has the red 6 on the rear
    the update N5 has the chrome GTi-6 on the rear
    the N3 GTi-6 was basically the S16 with GTi-6 engine and box and the wild paint brush type seats but had N3 rear shelf and a few other little N3 bits
    also most N3 GTi-6's had a sunroof
    i was informed that N5 GTi-6's didn't get sunroofs untill late 98 early 99
    only reason i know this is i wanted a sunroof
    i was trading my Mi-16 fully option pack in on the 306 and i had really liked the sunroof in the 405
    we will have to try and have a 306 day
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    and my old N5 GTi6 has a painted spoiler and B pillar. Only car I've seen with that.
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    Does it matter which bits are bolted on??? The N5 spec up is in the chassis, not the badge, or the headlights. It's easy to tell, just take it for a drive, a hard drive. If it flexes all over the place, it's an N-3, if it's tight as a cats bum, it's an N5.

    Sorry about the outburst, but after working for a bit at a pug dealer, I saw all types of different bits come on all different models. Every shipment of cars had something new or something old attached to it.

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    GTI124:
    and my old N5 GTi6 has a painted spoiler and B pillar. Only car I've seen with that.
    Are you sure that's not just because your car was black, matching the black plastic they're made from? :p
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    Hey Rek, are you the same Rek on cyclingforums.com? Oh what a small world this internet can be...

    Anyway, the B pillar and spoiler are painted and are of a different quality to the dodgy repairs of the bonnet, so it was either from the factory like that, or the first owner had it painted before he crashed it.

    There are no plastic bits, except around the side mirror surround on the my ex GTi6
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