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    Remember W. L. Ryans in Elizabeth St in Melbourne from about the 80's??????
    Are they still trading?
    If not who does the same type of thing? Electrics, hydraulics etc....
    The good stuff not the chinese crap from the usual suspects.

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    They (or the company who brought the name) have moved to North Melb.

    Ryans Tools & Accessories

    Phone: (03) 9347 9819

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    Unit 2, 321 Arden St North Melbourne VIC 3051

    Last time I was there they had a good range of handtools. I got some Teng Torx spanners & sockets from them. You might have to tell them you're in the trade (if you're already not).
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    Quote Originally Posted by 85Fuego View Post
    Remember W. L. Ryans in Elizabeth St in Melbourne from about the 80's??????
    Are they still trading?
    If not who does the same type of thing? Electrics, hydraulics etc....
    The good stuff not the chinese crap from the usual suspects.

    Ta

    David
    They are long gone in the form you and I knew them.

    Cibie lights up the front and endless hours of browsing their displays tools, fittings, auto electrics and just about everything else.

    I remember the overhead Lamson rapid wire cash carrier, the same as Balls Malvern & Richmond and Dimmeys?

    Ryco are a company solely into air and hydraulic fitting and hoses.

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    I remember the overhead Lamson rapid wire cash carrier, the same as Balls Malvern & Richmond and Dimmeys?
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    Also Adairs (haberdashery?) in Camberwell.
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    [QUOTE=GRAHAM WALLIS;980973]
    Quote Originally Posted by robmac

    I remember the overhead Lamson rapid wire cash carrier, the same as Balls Malvern & Richmond and Dimmeys?
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    Also Adairs (haberdashery?) in Camberwell.
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    I'm feeling all nostalgic.

    I used to shoot down to W.L Ryans (when they were on Elizabeth Street) when I was an apprentice at City Saab when they were in Leicester Street.

    It was the only store I'd ever been to with a central cash booth and the wire cash carriers - it seemed pretty antiquated even back then but the store was gold.

    There used to be a tyre place on the corner too but now the whole street is made up of trendy bloody furniture stores...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAHAM WALLIS View Post

    I'm feeling all nostalgic.

    I used to shoot down to W.L Ryans (when they were on Elizabeth Street) when I was an apprentice at City Saab when they were in Leicester Street.

    It was the only store I'd ever been to with a central cash booth and the wire cash carriers - it seemed pretty antiquated even back then but the store was gold.

    There used to be a tyre place on the corner too but now the whole street is made up of trendy bloody furniture stores...
    There was an electronic disposal place around the corner in Queensberry Street. Can't remember the name xxxx Trading?

    Goldmine of old tools and industrial bits and pieces.

    I still have a few of 10mm long series morse tape HSS drills, 10cents each 30 years ago!

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    I remember in 70's being in Ryans to buy a plug spanner when old Mr Ryan (then 80+) wanted to know what i was after. When I told him a 403 plug spanner he produced a thin wall ring spanner
    "you will need one of these then for tappet adjustment, "

    dont find service like that now !!

    Apparently the old man annoyed hell out of the staff for their ignorance.

    Ryans also bought out Gore & Sellick Nut and Bolt Supplies who used to reside in motorcycle alley
    who had absolutely every type of nut and bolt left or right hand thread!!!!
    Ryans never seemed to be able to find stuff when the old man was no longer around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistareno View Post

    There was an electronic disposal place around the corner in Queensberry Street. Can't remember the name xxxx Trading?

    Goldmine of old tools and industrial bits and pieces.

    I still have a few of 10mm long series morse tape HSS drills, 10cents each 30 years ago!
    Rob was that Ritebuy metals run by Roman Rosenbaum, had all sorts of s/hand machinery, bits and pieces, some car stuff and lots of tools - main business was buying and selling scrap metal. If it was I spent lots of hours there too

    There used to be another place out in Essendon that had hand tools etc. then there was the place in Bourke Street, not far from Spencer Street, that sold war surplus micrometers, I bought my Moore and Wright micrometers from them, paid the princely sum of $7 for my 0 to 1inch micrometer still wrapped in its wax paper preservative. They also sold rabbit traps and all sorts of farm handy stuff.

    Then there was McPhersons not far from there in the city, they had a magnificent catalogue of tools etc.


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    Rob was that Ritebuy metals run by Roman Rosenbaum, had all sorts of s/hand machinery, bits and pieces, some car stuff and lots of tools - main business was buying and selling scrap metal. If it was I spent lots of hours there too

    There used to be another place out in Essendon that had hand tools etc. then there was the place in Bourke Street, not far from Spencer Street, that sold war surplus micrometers, I bought my Moore and Wright micrometers from them, paid the princely sum of $7 for my 0 to 1inch micrometer still wrapped in its wax paper preservative. They also sold rabbit traps and all sorts of farm handy stuff.

    Then there was McPhersons not far from there in the city, they had a magnificent catalogue of tools etc.


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    Yep Rite Buy and Roman - all kind of adversarial messages on hand written notes around the walls.

    Anyone remember Snowy Milbourne (VK3 CW) Ham Radio Suppliers a specialist in ex military service wireless sets and similar wireless gear supplier. Initially in Melville street Hawthorn and later in Highett street Richmond.

    Also Walthams bargain basement in Elizabeth street Melbourne who sold similar electronics.

    Homecrafts who used to sell new components and valves up the road in Elizabeth Street as well.

    I used to go to Walthams after school on the Tram and come back home with ex army "boat anchor" transceivers and bring them back on the tram in peak hour with a school bag on top. Must to the disgust of the Tram Conductors.

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    in my experience - Hudsons Stores (?) Elizabeth St were like heaven, but - not too long ago; Keebles, A'Beckett St, good for fasteners, there was a hardware off Bay St which closed at lunch that was a treasure ... once found Peugeot brand screwdrivers on Clarendon st Sth Melbourne, and WL Hayman and Sons on City rd - not just Vee belts /pulleys, taper-lock - but leather drive-belt staple-things ... with more off thread to come, i'm going to froggy-chat.
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    Ryans was a marvellous place for a lunchtime visit by a bloke who studied and worked at Melbourne University. The only place I know that is anything like it and still going is Hayes's hardware store in Invercargill, New Zealand.

    The place on Queensbury Street, Rite Buy, was on the south east corner of Bouverie Street. I bought some good tools there.

    Ken, the place in Bourke Street you refer to was Hudson's Stores, owned by the Pearce brothers. Jack was tall and grumpy; Alec was shorter and better natured. My father used to take me in there and Alec would find something in the store to give me. The stuff in public view was pretty junky and if you were just browsing or window shopping you would think the place was full of army surplus crap. But if you asked for something specific or they trusted you enough to let you wander around out the back they had all kinds of fantastic stuff. Their philosophy was that only people who knew what they wanted would get it. I doubt any business today could afford such a philosophy. Eventually they gave up the Bourke Street shop and "retired" to their warehouse in Richmond but I suspect they lost a lot of customers at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Wilkinson View Post
    Ryans was a marvellous place for a lunchtime visit by a bloke who studied and worked at Melbourne University. The only place I know that is anything like it and still going is Hayes's hardware store in Invercargill, New Zealand.

    The place on Queensbury Street, Rite Buy, was on the south east corner of Bouverie Street. I bought some good tools there.

    Ken, the place in Bourke Street you refer to was Hudson's Stores, owned by the Pearce brothers. Jack was tall and grumpy; Alec was shorter and better natured. My father used to take me in there and Alec would find something in the store to give me. The stuff in public view was pretty junky and if you were just browsing or window shopping you would think the place was full of army surplus crap. But if you asked for something specific or they trusted you enough to let you wander around out the back they had all kinds of fantastic stuff. Their philosophy was that only people who knew what they wanted would get it. I doubt any business today could afford such a philosophy. Eventually they gave up the Bourke Street shop and "retired" to their warehouse in Richmond but I suspect they lost a lot of customers at that point.

    Roger
    I also loved the place, It was near Burke West Police station, and I'd wander in after visiting that station for one reason or another as a young constable in uniform, had lots of friendly talks with both of them, not sure which one sold me the micrometer, but I do know that once I showed him that I knew how to use it properly, he pulled out all sorts of interesting bits and pieces.

    Police of course in those days were very well respected and people wanted to meet you and pass the time, wonderful for a country boy walking around the City. Met lots of very interesting and also some very ordinary but loverly people over the years, we were there to help them and they helped us too.

    Loved the Old Tin shed in Elizabeth Street, and later became friends with the Hughes when they moved to Coburg on the old quarry site. I bought and sold lots of interesting bits and pieces from there in later life. That place was absolutely crammed with everything from aircraft, tools, car parts, tin helmets, magnetos, wonderful people and a great place to sit and yarn about the world - really miss them these days. wonderfull stories almost a history of Victoria, certainly a good education. Still have some of the more interesting parts that we dug out of the crates still stored under old rotting canvas.. things like a bucket of upholstery tacks and trim bits for 1920's cars - even if it was a pr*ck of a job sorting them out later

    Ken

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    wipe your eyes all you nostalgics - now we have Bunnings!

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    Icon6 Nostalgia is when you can buy the product and its integral parts!!

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    wipe your eyes all you nostalgics - now we have Bunnings!
    Exactly! and why we are nostalgic for places like those that gave us wider choice.

    Bunnings did too when they first opened, but soon rationalised to fewer product lines i.e. less choice!! or pre packaged high priced boutique stuff.

    You are probably showing your age (or lack of) A lot of us older (young elderly!!) hanker back to the days that you could go to a shoemakers and buy products to repair your own shoes, or stuff like Raven's oil to colour the leather finish, even the better "hardware stores" did stock such items as they had to compete with specialist shops, but once they "captured the market" that stopped.

    Fortunately there are still places that you can buy the raw products and mix your own as I recently found out when I went looking for 100 percent Methylated Spirits (ethanol) for French polishing. I called in at Sceneys PTY LTD 17 third Avenue Sunshine, and sourced not only the pure product I wanted but also bought several items like Boiled linseed oil (painting mixer) Raw Linseed oil and citrus solvent all useful in the finishing and preparation of antique work, and at very reasonable prices!

    I was reminded of that reasonable cost when I also called at Carbatech and found that small mixed French polish were being sold at huge profit margins (convenience?) considering the actual cost of shellac and Methylated spirits that go into their making. Pure Tung oil was as much a litre as Sceneys charge for 5 litres of the pure product ($55) and one litre at sceneys is $20!!.

    The best I could get at Bunnings Tasmania was about $66 for a low (diluted) mix of "tung oil" when I last bought the timber finish and probably dearer now. I had also been told by Bunnings that you could not buy Creosote (excellent for preserving and protecting timber in contact with damp ground) as it had been taken off the market. Sceneys have Creosote but only in 20 litre drums, but at least you can get it along with similar preservative products.

    I didn't have to buy shellac as I have a lifetime supply compliments of my late father's workshop and that in my own workshop, but I now have a source for the makings and products for woodworked finishes - who remembers Stockholm tar, Terebine driers, Pure Turpentine, methyl Ethyl Ketone, Cloudy Amonia, Acetone, Maize oil, Methanol, toluene, White spirits Isopropyl Alcohol, Xylene, and the list goes on, a painter and woodworkers wonderland!! for us that have grown up with mixing and using these products safely

    Yep nostalgia works fine for those that know what is missing from modern hardware stores!!

    P.S. having to buy some things in larger quantities is not a problem when you have mates that will jump at the chance to share those contents!!

    Ken
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    Blind Freddie can find Ken's place it's the one with the Renault's, hint O' woodwork and Hazchem signage. Pretty much like my place except the car choice is more Catholic and the crackle of the manual arc welder gives it a high UV rating.

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    I'll contribute to the nostalgia, W.L. Ryans was visited regularly by myself when I was doing my trade schooling at RMIT, around 1990-1992, what a fantastic place to buy all sorts of odds & ends..... And with staff that actually had a clue! The only place in Melbourne I could buy a (if I remember right!) 55mm tube spanner on 3/4 drive for Land Cruiser wheel bearing lock-nuts, and at a reasonable price....

    Rite Buy was even more of a Favourite, given that I was essentially doing a wood / engineering trade - if you went upstairs there was the most amazing assortment of good quality new & used tools, much of my early tool kit came from there, including squares, calipers, planes, etc......

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    Here are some pics of the Lamson wire cash system in use in Dartford UK - and being the web it's part of a whole web site devoted to 'cash railways' including the pneumatic system. Parts of a Lamson system still remain in the Rainbow (Vic) general store. See pic
    http://www.ids.u-net.com/cash/dartford.htm
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    Norm Smith's Hardware in Hannan St Kalgoorlie.
    Old Norm would know what you wanted before you walked through the door. Always gave a short lesson on fuel line fittings etc.
    Second hand tools in Midland, now a trendy restaurant. Great place then for odd spanners, sockets to replace those 'borrowed' by friends.
    Monstrous dual signal tension wrench in front window must have been six feet long. Probably sourced from the old Midland railway workshops.

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