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    Thanks Shane. Even the small ones are handy. They don't have to be huge!

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    Will that bench not even fit out sideways? What if you cut the bracing off and replace it later?

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    Icon5 Tool - "computer" aquisition

    Got this today, I wonder how many here have used an ACROW "concrete computer".

    Its in reasonable condition, not sure how long ago it was in common use.

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    2010/1/539 Slide rule, Acrow Concrete Volume Computer, plastic, made by Blundell Rules Ltd, Weymouth, England, 1950-1970 - Powerhouse Museum Collection

    1970 if you can believe the above.
    However at that time pocket calculators may have already taken over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    2010/1/539 Slide rule, Acrow Concrete Volume Computer, plastic, made by Blundell Rules Ltd, Weymouth, England, 1950-1970 - Powerhouse Museum Collection

    1970 if you can believe the above.
    However at that time pocket calculators may have already taken over.
    My only reference point(memory) to calculator popularity is the following, 1970 I was in last year of primary school, I didn't get my first calculator until 1975 in year 12.
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    I haven't seen one in years. They were for site foremen to aid the accuracy of their arithmetic.

    Calculators were still in the future in 1970; I was still using a slide rule and 7 figure logs. I bought a small - not pocket - calculator about 1972? for roughly a week's wages. It had a paper output - in those days calcs were always double checked. I didn't know of any other user of a scientific calculator at the time. The price fell very rapidly in the next few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seasink View Post
    I haven't seen one in years. They were for site foremen to aid the accuracy of their arithmetic.

    Calculators were still in the future in 1970; I was still using a slide rule and 7 figure logs. I bought a small - not pocket - calculator about 1972? for roughly a week's wages. It had a paper output - in those days calcs were always double checked. I didn't know of any other user of a scientific calculator at the time. The price fell very rapidly in the next few years.
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    I am rather amazed at the number of scientific calculators (some still in their sealed wrap) like the Tl -83 (32 kb) plus instruction manuals and variations that are presently in op shops for a few dollars. Used to pick up a few odd looking examples, but gave them away to collectors. I see there is a HP 42S RPN there with mercury button cells, don't think they would last that long.

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    I wasn't into old machinery then Rob. My new HP calculator came a bit later. I still have those first ones.

    At that time when calculations were normally hand done plus slide rule and checked by someone, those little HPs and TIs that came in (still hugely expensive - see Pug206gti's post) had one problem - no printout meant someone couldn't check. So you had to still jot down the arithmetic. Everyone uses computers now and nobody checks them.

    I remember a civil engineer then who used a comptometer, with the vast array of mechanical buttons (9's complement if memory is correct). That really was different, and tricky, stuff.
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    Workbench toolchest auction in Carrarra


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    I find having tools stuffed into chests instead of hanging on shadow boards an absolute pain, particularly when you have to share them. Can you see the ones that aren't in the drawers? A quick check of a shadow board will tell you instantly how many and which tools you've left in the car................
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    We all have our own take on our preferred set up. I have couple of large tool boxes and a peg board and far too much stuff
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    Kim,
    "Particularly when you have to share them" ??? [I]Never ![I]"
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    You can't have much if you can hang them on the wall.
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    If I were to hang all my toolery up on a Grandpa style pegboard I'd need a very big shed. Just sayin'.

    Instead I keep my stuff grouped in different locations according to intended use.

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    I keep most of my tools grouped in different locations based on where I last used them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Wilkinson View Post
    I keep most of my tools grouped in different locations based on where I last used them.

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    I prefer to keep the regularly used tools handy on a shadow board or tool cabinet and the not so frequently used ones in draws and tool boxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Wilkinson View Post
    I keep most of my tools grouped in different locations based on where I last used them.

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    It's a life of frustration though .... especially, when you drive or use a trailer/caravan/tractor/mower for the first time is a couple of years and find your long lost " probably borrowed/stolen by someone " tools that have long since been replaced

    If you can remember where I last used my butane blow torch .... that would be really handy. I've been looking at replacing the damn thing for a couple of months now as it's gone walkabout .... It would help if someone, somewhere could remember where I last used it ( it probably has a candle ... or roll of solder beside it).
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    After my son had used my tools they were easy to find: Just mow the front lawn!
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    You can get same voltage replacements for mercury button cells - it is an issue with old cameras and exposure meters that work in 1.35 V, the lithium or other cells work in either 1.5 or 3.0V which gives duff readings

    They are called Wein cells and use a Zinc - Oxygen reaction to generate 1.35V. You can recognise them by the sticky on the back to cover the vent holes. Take about 2 mins to fire up initially after taking the tape off but work very well. Also used in hearing aids

    You would still be able to use the calculator.

    I did like RPN - makes complex calculations so much easier. Still have mine but has fallen foul of infection control - too many nooks and crannies for bugs to live in.

    Back to doing sums in my head

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    It's a life of frustration though .... especially, when you drive or use a trailer/caravan/tractor/mower for the first time is a couple of years and find your long lost " probably borrowed/stolen by someone " tools that have long since been replaced

    If you can remember where I last used my butane blow torch .... that would be really handy. I've been looking at replacing the damn thing for a couple of months now as it's gone walkabout .... It would help if someone, somewhere could remember where I last used it ( it probably has a candle ... or roll of solder beside it).
    This reminds me of the time many years ago when I dropped an 10/11mm ring spanner and it bounced on the concrete floor. Despite fruitlessly searching on and off for about 12 months I couldn't locate it, so reluctantly bought a replacement. Sure enough, I then found the original. At least, if it happens again I already have another!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Chisholm View Post
    This reminds me of the time many years ago when I dropped an 10/11mm ring spanner and it bounced on the concrete floor. Despite fruitlessly searching on and off for about 12 months I couldn't locate it, so reluctantly bought a replacement. Sure enough, I then found the original. At least, if it happens again I already have another!
    Or dropping your (at the time) only 11mm socket into the engine bay of your D and it NOT hitting the ground. Hmmm, how to now disassemble engine bay enough without the lost socket...

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    I personally don't sleep well if I leave spanners etc where I last finished with them. I tend to wipe them down and hang them up/put them back in their drawers when finished even if I'm coming back to the same incomplete job the following night after work.
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