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    G'day Shane,

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    That's great. What do you make with small lathes like that? Can you rotate the cross slide bed so the slide winds in and out on an angle? (eg: cutting small tapers).

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    pursue other interests, model railways, eventually outside in the garden......

    There is a separate topslide for tapers, most people leave it off unless really required as it restricts the operating area - also possible to turn lonnnng tapers between centres by moving the tailstock over, or disconnecting the cross slide feed and using a jig to feed it relative to the saddle position.

    Need to chase up a small motor for it, something around 300w. Current enquiries suggest it's cheaper to buy a little Chinese bench drill and use it's motor than buy a new separate motor !

    cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post

    I think you missed my point Shane.

    Like a boat and a swimming pool, they are best when someone else owns and operates them and and i just swan in for the good times without having to deal with all the maintenence and skill set required to run the beast.

    The amount of custom lathe work i do is minuscule, and reserved for times like now when I'm doing a once in 5 year major restructure of the drive train.

    I do also have a master machinist on my books, who likes my silly curly real metal jobs i offer him. He likes getting his hands dirty like he did in the 'old days and it offers him some variety from CNC'ing artificial heart valves out of plastic.
    Things like re sleeving the R25 wishbone tubes to fit a thinner fuego bolt got him thinking and using his old world skills, and I must say he did a sterling job and charged me peanuts at the end. I think a heart valve replacement recipient might have subsidised that job.

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    I know exactly what you meant .... still I'd be itching to get my hands on that lathe and tinker ......... Boats .... Do you mean something like this ??






    My brother purchased this a few weeks back. He's bloody estatic about it. The idea of sitting in a boat bored out of my brains hoping some fish might bite so I have something to do would be enough to drive you to drink ............ Lots of it He's over the moon about it though, I've been shown over it in detail, under floor fuel tanks, fish finders, engine pod, live bait tanks etc.... We should get him interested in something exciting like DS19's or something He reckons it's bloody fast and stable after his little fishing boat though.

    Now sailing.... that's something that could interest me ... You have something to do!

    Dunno why he'd buy something that doesn't fit in his yard though.... The trouble with having a little space around is everyone want to keep there sh1t at your place My parents want to keep there caravan down here too. I'm going to put gates into the paddock so big stuff can go over there rather than next to the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob View Post
    G'day Shane,



    pursue other interests, model railways, eventually outside in the garden......

    There is a separate topslide for tapers, most people leave it off unless really required as it restricts the operating area - also possible to turn lonnnng tapers between centres by moving the tailstock over, or disconnecting the cross slide feed and using a jig to feed it relative to the saddle position.

    Need to chase up a small motor for it, something around 300w. Current enquiries suggest it's cheaper to buy a little Chinese bench drill and use it's motor than buy a new separate motor !

    cheers,
    Bob
    You know about the oztion seller right ??? I'll have to arrange to get some stuff from him I imagine

    http://www.quicksales.com.au/Busines...tions/490.aspx

    lots of offcuts for machining galore

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    G'day Shane,

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    You know about the oztion seller right .......
    Never looked there, thanks for that one.

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    Default 10mm square nut spanner

    10mm square nut spanner for undoing gear box drain plugs.

    I want/need one, but dont know where to get it from.

    Any suggestions?????



    Jo

    PS I'm not talking about a flair nut spanner, i mean a full box 10mm square

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post
    10mm square nut spanner for undoing gear box drain plugs.

    I want/need one, but dont know where to get it from.

    Any suggestions?????



    Jo

    PS I'm not talking about a flair nut spanner, i mean a full box 10mm square
    Something like this ??

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/10mm-Square-F...#ht_1706wt_907

    There about the only fasteners I use a shifter on

    EDIT: hang on, postage is ludicrous on that one, try this:

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Laser-Drain-P...#ht_1731wt_907

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    Something like this ??

    There about the only fasteners I use a shifter on

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    Nup, I want a spanner.

    Shane, I think you under estimate how tough they can be to remove sometimes.
    You cant use a shifter. You cant use vice grips or an open ended spanner or a regular cut flair nut spanner. There is a star socket that might fit but the set was $78 and I wasn't going to buy another row of sockets on the 'maybe' chance.

    I ended up buying the king of bodgy tools.


    Dont worry, I didn't use this on the sump. I stopped doing that in my teens.
    I stuck a 5/8 socket extension on the wrong way, and used this tool on the other end of the extension.
    I now have a 'sacrificial' socket extension after the vice spanner tool cut 5 beatifuly neat incisions in the
    extension. I hate to think what it would have done to the sump plug If you gave it a go.
    My plugs are undamaged as is my gearbox.


    The subject of load levelers has come up lately in conversation, and I thought theyt sounded like a realy good idea until I used one.

    What made it even more fun was Barry wastn't looking over this engine crane and it was self dropping so by the time I'd done 25 rotations on the leveler, I'd lost the moment as the crane dropped.

    That is one tool I will not be wasting my money on and will continue to my $10 version that doubles as a dog lead, a clarinet ligature,lawn mower starter and probably 20,000 other uses on the farm.

    Its just a stainless steel (smooth) shackle or two and a length of 3mm (imitation) spectra.
    Spectra is uber high quality sailing rope and has no stretch and has super strength. 3mm 190kg braking strain.
    Dont laugh but this bit of string I'm running would probably take about 1000kg static weight.

    Having no stretch ensures it runs smooth next to its lower or faster neighbour without overly binding up.
    You want some bind or else its dangerous, but just enough to have you stop it with mild finger pressure on the 'block'.

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    G'day Jo,

    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post
    10mm square nut spanner for undoing gear box drain plugs.

    I want/need one, but dont know where to get it from.

    Any suggestions?????



    Jo

    PS I'm not talking about a flair nut spanner, i mean a full box 10mm square
    bit of 1"x" bar, easy peasy....

    cheers,
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    That would do me fine, Bob.
    How do I go about cutting a square hole???

    All my drill bits are round.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post
    That would do me fine, Bob.
    How do I go about cutting a square hole???

    All my drill bits are round.


    Jo
    He's probably got a miniture milling machine next to the lathe in his workshop I've never been good at trying to file squares ... or holes either.

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    G'day Jo,

    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post
    That would do me fine, Bob.
    How do I go about cutting a square hole???

    All my drill bits are round.


    Jo
    use your round one and a square file, about five minutes each end. Keep testing the weapon on a nice unmangled plug so that you get it right. Round the outside off on the bench grinder - Shane has one that will do a stack of 10 of these in one go

    Note that the holes are offset 45 degrees to each other. Once its all done put a little kink in each end like a ringy is, just a few tiny degrees, makes life easier with the level plug.

    Spanner is about 12" long.

    Nope Shane, no CNC miller here, Taig do a nice mini mill though.....

    cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob View Post
    G'day Jo,



    use your round one and a square file, about five minutes each end. Keep testing the weapon on a nice unmangled plug so that you get it right. Round the outside off on the bench grinder - Shane has one that will do a stack of 10 of these in one go

    Note that the holes are offset 45 degrees to each other. Once its all done put a little kink in each end like a ringy is, just a few tiny degrees, makes life easier with the level plug.

    Spanner is about 12" long.

    Nope Shane, no CNC miller here, Taig do a nice mini mill though.....

    cheers,
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    This would be easier ..... But look at the price ...

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ATLAS-CRAFTSM...#ht_2694wt_907

    It's only really a toy, but would bolt straight onto the lathe here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post
    10mm square nut spanner for undoing gear box drain plugs.

    I want/need one, but dont know where to get it from.

    Any suggestions????




    Jo

    PS I'm not talking about a flair nut spanner, i mean a full box 10mm square
    Jo,
    Fortunately us old lags know what you need. It's a "star" socket.* Should be available as an individual tool. Mr Snap-On or similar.
    I hope your drain/fill plugs haven't been butchered by those who've gone before?

    Early model Renault owners will recall the Renault double ended tool** for the job.

    *mentioned here in prev posts.
    ** this tool perfect for Pug drum brake adjustment.

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    G'day Shane,

    that's what you get when you buy a "brute", My tiny Taig uses this one:

    http://taig.com.au/index.php?main_pa...products_id=63

    much cheaper, and it's here in Oz.

    Course, to make square holes though you need a broach:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broachi...etalworking%29

    that is brute force....

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    Could not help myself today.
    Walked into aldi and came out with a new compressor for $100 and a pair of air sheers for about $20.

    The hope is to run this one in parralell with the existing one that is probably getting a bit tired, seeing as i never serviced it 5 years ago (nor since), when i saw the price of new ones.

    one hour later....

    Works a treat.'
    My shed is all plumbed for air, so I just plugged it into a seldom used air outlet, and it seems to all work Ok extra to the main compressor.
    Both are on seperate power switches so I can chose to run either or both, depending if I want the sound of serenity from the remote compressor or the sound of disaster with the new one.

    The main compressor air pressure switch is 80-120, the new cheapy goes 81-110, and so far, the extra 10 psi fed back to unit has not caused any obvious problems. If it does, I'll wind the master on the shed back to 109 psi.
    There is about 0.5 seconds difference between start times when evacuating the air quickly which is a bit close, but not enough to throw the safety switch at the fuse box.
    I have a passive tank plugged in to the system too, so there is no shortage of volume now.
    One a threshold is reached where it kicks in, it works for a little time longer filling the the tank of the two parasitic tanks.
    One thing that is a certainty, this little compressor would make a certain fire risk if it was remote mounted and not vetilated with extra fan cooling. For a working compressor, it gets very very hot, which is why i'm running it the work area so I can keep an eye on it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bob View Post
    G'day Shane,

    that's what you get when you buy a "brute", My tiny Taig uses this one:

    http://taig.com.au/index.php?main_pa...products_id=63

    much cheaper, and it's here in Oz.

    Course, to make square holes though you need a broach:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broachi...etalworking%29

    that is brute force....

    cheers,
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    Hi Bob,

    I found a lathe that would look really good in your workshop parked next to the minuture .... You would have one from each end of the size spectrum

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Macson-6-metr...#ht_500wt_1156

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    G'day Jo,

    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post
    ............For a working compressor, it gets very very hot,......
    You'll save a power of money on heating in the winter

    $20 for shears, have to go down and check that one out over the weekend - 'spose we all have the same promos.

    Doozy of a lathe Shane, centre height would be a short on though compared to the one they had for doing the wheels at Newport Workshops !

    cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob View Post
    G'day Jo,



    You'll save a power of money on heating in the winter

    $20 for shears, have to go down and check that one out over the weekend - 'spose we all have the same promos.

    Doozy of a lathe Shane, centre height would be a short on though compared to the one they had for doing the wheels at Newport Workshops !

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post
    Could not help myself today.
    Walked into aldi and came out with a new compressor for $100 and a pair of air sheers for about $20.

    The hope is to run this one in parralell with the existing one that is probably getting a bit tired, seeing as i never serviced it 5 years ago (nor since), when i saw the price of new ones.
    The family winemaker in Mornington has a big airbag grape press in the winery. Being too cheap to install 3 phase power, he daisy-chained 3 of these cheap compressors from Supacheap. Works a treat. He probably buys 3 new ones every vintage, just to be safe, but, then again, probably not. He's a farmer through and through. Everything gets fixed with wire, duct tape, and roofing screws (next door neighbour is a roofer, and they barter labour etc).

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    He's a farmer through and through. Everything gets fixed with wire, duct tape, and roofing screws Tim
    I could take umbrage at that remark (but I won't). Nothing around here gets a temporay fix, unless it's an emergency and has to be going. Equipment need to be reliable so it gets fixed properly.
    cheers Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCOATES505 View Post
    I could take umbrage at that remark (but I won't). Nothing around here gets a temporay fix, unless it's an emergency and has to be going. Equipment need to be reliable so it gets fixed properly.
    cheers Pete
    You must be a better organised farmer than me, Pete. I find that so much needs fixing that if I fixed everything properly nothing would be working. So I prioritise the repairs: some things receive a proper repair or rebuild; others receive fencing wire; some might receive a temporary replacement with something cheap and nasty; occasionally some receive only hayband! Having a day job doesn't help, as it limits the time I spend on the farm.

    I agree with your umbrage comment, though. Stereotyping farmers is no different from stereotyping anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Wilkinson View Post
    I agree with your umbrage comment, though. Stereotyping farmers is no different from stereotyping anyone else.
    Fiddlesticks! Stereotyping is one of the last of the great blood sports. Let's do you, for example - oh, you're a Citroen owner! Too much like shooting fish in a barrel, unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcusack View Post
    Fiddlesticks! Stereotyping is one of the last of the great blood sports. Let's do you, for example - oh, you're a Citroen owner! Too much like shooting fish in a barrel, unfortunately.

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    Ah Tim, you are a typical Queenslander, way behind the rest of the country in political correctness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcusack View Post
    you're a Citroen owner! Too much like shooting fish in a barrel
    One thing that would make it easy is that I don't put on a special persona here. What would make it rather difficult is that Citroen ownership is only one of my many interests, and it is by no means the most important. The fish are small and few, and the barrel large and lined with mirrors. Beware, lest the bullet ricochet and harm the hunter rather than the hunted.

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