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    ESSCARGO....

    anyone did any upgrade at ESSCARGO before?
    especially for 206 GTi....???

    i found their prices a bit pricy.. however... they seem like the only "peugeot" specialist around sydney(by that i mean workshop specifically doing upgrades for peugeot)...
    is there any other peugeot specialists around??

    Dont want to just go to any shop n have cheap-but-stuff-up-after-3-months mods..

    Tim

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    They seem pretty good. As with everything, do your research and get multiple opinions from other places.

    I find it hard to believe that their K&N pod intake upgrades magically produces 3kw at the wheels on the 206, 206 GTi, 306 and 306 GTi6. I've never had such joy in the past with pod filters.

    Their exhausts seem reputable and reportedly do they job, but are expensive. They are apparently pricey because of extensive in-house research and development on all their exhasut products, how much of this is true and how much of it is marketing I do not know.

    Super helpful and friendly though.

    Prices on EBC products were reasonable.

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    ntrx,

    thanks heaps far that....
    i mite drop in and ask them more about their product...
    you mention their exauhst are pretty good.. you know if their 206 exauhst came from the big bro of 306 with a bit of alteration?? coz i realise a lot of workshops do that... burrow practically wot ever was developed for 306 and mod it for 206...

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    I've been there to get my some new brake discs, i didn't see any fancy computer equipment anywhere though. Do they have another workshop where they do all their testing? anyone know?

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    TT - they say on their website that the exhausts are completely made from stainless - so I doubt they use the exhaust from the 306. Also the 306 and 206GTi power are similar (from the same capacity) so I don't understand the advantage there.

    Pugsly - I've been led to believe they did extensive testing of their exhaust on the road, track and on the dyno.

    They won't elaborate on the design of the system because they've "poured so much money into development!"

    Sounds convincing, but being cautious of workshops these days, it's hard to know for sure that the $1400 is money well spent.

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    TT, both me and a mate ( i got a 306 s16 and he has a 206gti) use Esscargo, they rally/race pugs alot so they have Res and Devlpoment to cover, however they do their dyno work at SAS(silverwater auto services), My friend got the ait kit put on and we did notice a diference, but even from factory, 306's had atleast 15Kw more, so only listen to 206 mods, as they DONT share any common parts at all!......... good luck. X.
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    xqisid - was wondering if you've got any mods done to your car, and if you've got results with before and after dyno sheets?

    cheers
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    My 306 pug had the air intake and exhaust done there. The car feels really strong but alas I have no comparison point. Previous owner said that the car felt a lot better after the mods.

    Apart from loose air filter mounting ( easily fixed ) I had no problems with both mods. But have been told to stay away from their regular maintenance service.

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    Hey hey,

    I engaged them a few weeks ago to get my 205GTi back on the road (after a couple of years in a shed).

    They've done a very fine job, indeed. Even rectified a few bodgy repairer's SNUFUs (missing screws etc in the engine bay). I got great service, a very thorough job and the work was done at a very reasonable price.

    I've been nailed by a few mechanics in the past (after hooning up various cars from beetles to a WRX) - I reckon these guys are good value. I've just had my "retighten the head bolts" 1000KM service - they not only did the service but also investigated a couple of suspension clunks (including pulling out the torsion bar)...again, a bloody good job and very reasonable $$. I'll be going back.

    I can't speak to their home-grown performance parts (yet!), but if the rest of their service is an indicator they are definately worth considering.

    $0.02 spent.

    Cheers,

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    before looking at changing the exhaust on your 206gtipop your head under and have alook at the factory system and think wether a larger system will do a much better job. unless you are doing major engine mods dont bother the standard system will flow enough gas.if your after better sound change your rear muffler for a straight through unit very cheap and effective.as for your air box dont bother with exposed pod filters you will lose hp from the hot air which circulates around your engine bay try replacing the original unit with a high flow bmc unit around the 155 dollar mark and then rerouting the intake tube at the bottom of the air box.the standard gti box is large and good flowing so save your money you will be dissapointed

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    I went there and had my air filter fitted. They are in artarmon if i can recall. There welding jobs are ok & they did a good job on my car. I dont know about anything else..

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    tony abberton - I think more people should take heed of your good advice. I looked under my GTi-6 on a hoist and it seemed the exhaust is pretty damned good already - 2" mandrel bent the whole way through, with no visible restrictions. I saved my $$$ by going a free-er flowing cat and rear muffler - typical bottlenecks in a factory exhaust system.

    I read on the Peugeot Sport forums that a cat back exhaust is worth 3hp at the treads (on an otherwise standard GTi-6) if done well - that's virtually nothing!

    Your comments on filters are smart too, but I'll stop here as I can go on for an eternity on that topic!

    Bolt on bits = easy money for performance workshops.

    Cheers,
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    thanx heaps guys for the info guys..

    i did my research and found out pretty much wot tony and ntrx been saying... standard specs are enough for wot the engine can take anyways.. much more $$$ and effort needed if u want to get a siginificant different in performance...
    most of the mods out there is giving out loud noises to fool ppl with big $$$ in the pockets... and its all probably in the heads if u think there is big diff in the mods..
    so the words are to put a aussiefrogs sticker on the car n get the same effect... head_ban

    gotta say there's a lot of workshops out there who doesnt know what they are dealing with.. one of them hoist up my car n reckons my car has a turbo... he reckons the pipe is too big for a NA engine~!! mallet

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    hey guys ... i have to admit that for ANY 2 liter NA euro car BIG$$$ is wats needed for power but we can make an improvement with reasonable money.
    beleive it or not they've pulled 220Hp from their rally 306 and use a few bolt-on stuff but plenty of dyno work, most of us pug owners should take advatage of our ECMS ability to handle some tuning. If not for more power, atleats for better fuel consumtion, smoothnes and getting rid of those damm flat spots ( i got two, one at peak tourqe bout 3800rpm and one at 6200rpm, minor but i notice them). but the gear that esscargo sell are there to take an already good pakage ( aka, gtis, s16 mi16 etc) and make just that much better, then crown it of with a ozfrogs sticker, yeeha baby..
    X

    ps when i finish my S16, as esscargo is doing most of the work ill try to post a dyno sheet and spec sheet with a power-to-dollar ratio.
    ... ptui!

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    xqisid do you happen to remember what they told you was on the rally car to make that power?

    Is it their exhaust kit, cams, and throttle bodies?

    cheers
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    when i was speaking to them years ago (beofre they rolled the gti6) they said they were running the standard manifold.
    it's one of the best around, ecosse's 306 sedan with over 300bhp uses one so there's obviously no restriction.

    Andreas

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    Crumbs Andreas - this is encouraging news!

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    hey guys... Stuart and dave @ NSRS, say the use a Gti6 engine and out-manifold, sports GrpN exhaust and air intake, BUT lots of dyno work!! i must stress how good dyno session is for a car, especially if its EFI.. i hope i got those specs rigth or stuart is gonna shoot me! lol. Another cheap way to increase go is loose the weight, i have NO rear seats and carpet, very small stereo and don't carry any thing extra in the car. Im thinking of going slightly ilegal and turfing the spare and getting a friend to make a Carbon-Fibre bonnet, Esscargo have their 306 down to 1000kg even, with 200Bhp thats better and more nimble power-to-weight than a Integra type-R!! ok nuf
    Look im gonna find out and ill try to post a Dyno sheet, even if i only improve fuel economy its something. Cheers X head_ban
    ... ptui!

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