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    Default 504 oil filter

    has anyone fitted an oil filter to their 504 that also fits a v6 holden? I havent done it but it screws on okay and the rubber seal contacts the face on the engine. there may be a good reason why this doesnt work ! so would like see the opinion of fellow froggers on this.

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    What is the number on the filter? i.e Z69 or Z142A etc. it might not be a Ryco number.

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    Default 504 oil filter.

    If you look at the base of your Peugeot [Purflux] filter you will see m18 stamped on it. Check the V6 Holden filter for similar. It may have 3/4" on it.
    This may screw on but it will feel loose.
    The Ryco Z69 is the equivalent to the Pug Purflux. There is no cross reference to this filter fitting anything else.

    I would be wary of fitting the Holden filter.

    I've been unlucky with Ryco filters on my Peugeots through leaking.
    The only other brand of filter I would use apart from Purflux, would be Mann or Purolator if they were readily available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildebeest
    If you look at the base of your Peugeot [Purflux] filter you will see m18 stamped on it. Check the V6 Holden filter for similar. It may have 3/4" on it.
    This may screw on but it will feel loose.
    The Ryco Z69 is the equivalent to the Pug Purflux. There is no cross reference to this filter fitting anything else.

    I would be wary of fitting the Holden filter.

    I couldn't agree more - if its not the correct filter and the screw is a bit loose you run the risk of the filter blowing off under pressure and when that happens you have about 1 second before the engine starts squeaking and a rebuild is neccessary.

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    if you can't get a purflux grab a valvoline VO8 oil filter

    interchangable with Z142A RYCO

    better filter and cheaper most of the time

    VO8 Interchangable with Ryco Part No: Z142A

    All Valvoline Oil Filters feature a unique double backing plate that withstands Pressure exceeding 300 PSI.
    Moulded heavy duty anti drain back valve;
    * Stops lubricant from draining out of filter when engine is turned off.
    * Prevents dry starts.
    * Prevents premature engine wear.
    Heavy duty Nickel plated that prevents rust and corrosion.
    Square section seals ensures

    positive sealing & Leak free operation.
    Heavy gauge inner tube prevents filter collapse.
    American Pressure Valve stops the engine from oil starvation when the filter becomes block due to neglect.
    Synthetic Reinforced filter media ensures all harmful contaminants such as dust are removed.
    Sealed edges prevents contamination leaking into the engine.
    Bonding metal end caps prevents filter media from collapsing during operation .
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    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo

    All Valvoline Oil Filters feature a unique double backing plate that withstands Pressure exceeding 300 PSI.
    Moulded heavy duty anti drain back valve;
    * Stops lubricant from draining out of filter when engine is turned off.
    * Prevents dry starts.
    * Prevents premature engine wear.
    Heavy duty Nickel plated that prevents rust and corrosion.
    Square section seals ensures

    positive sealing & Leak free operation.
    Heavy gauge inner tube prevents filter collapse.
    American Pressure Valve stops the engine from oil starvation when the filter becomes block due to neglect.
    Synthetic Reinforced filter media ensures all harmful contaminants such as dust are removed.
    Sealed edges prevents contamination leaking into the engine.
    Bonding metal end caps prevents filter media from collapsing during operation .

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    Default 504 oil filter ???

    Whoa there 'Rambo.
    Your recommendation of the Valvoline VO8 and Ryco 142A filters to suit the 504 is incorrect. Yes I have seen the packaging for the VO8. It is wrong!!

    The above numbers are for the post iron block 505's and possibly your 604's?

    Another example of mischievious packaging was with NGK plugs for Peugeot.
    They had a bubble pack of tapered seat plugs specified for the Peugeot 504!
    What they should have specified was they were for the 504 V6 Coupe.
    Imagine some poor sod winding a set of tapered seat plugs into his 504

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildebeest
    Whoa there 'Rambo.
    Your recommendation of the Valvoline VO8 and Ryco 142A filters to suit the 504 is incorrect. Yes I have seen the packaging for the VO8. It is wrong!!

    The above numbers are for the post iron block 505's and possibly your 604's?

    Another example of mischievious packaging was with NGK plugs for Peugeot.
    They had a bubble pack of tapered seat plugs specified for the Peugeot 504!
    What they should have specified was they were for the 504 V6 Coupe.
    Imagine some poor sod winding a set of tapered seat plugs into his 504

    604 is totally different

    they take a VO-23

    and no i don't work for valvoline

    ryco info

    Vehicle Model: 504

    Engine Note Year Oil Filter Air Filter Fuel Filter Notes
    To 3854008 4Cyl Petrol Z69
    From 3854009 4Cyl Petrol Z142A
    To 3610000 Diesel Z69
    From 3610001 Diesel Z142A


    as for if they are right or not i have no idea and it has been a few years since i have had a 504 and i doubt i will ever have another especially in 4cyl guise

    604's are so easy as it is a more common engine

    504 plugs on the other hand are the same plug they use in a number of cars and the 626 mazda is one that springs to mind

    604 plugs are the same as 2.2 OHC 505's and commondoors
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    I believe, although I can't confirm this, that the Z69 had an M18 x 1.5 thread and the Z142 had an M20 x 1.5 thread. The different filters were also used in the 505 series. My GR uses the Z69, my SR parts car and my wife's GTi uses the Z142A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gkmcnau
    has anyone fitted an oil filter to their 504 that also fits a v6 holden? I havent done it but it screws on okay and the rubber seal contacts the face on the engine. there may be a good reason why this doesnt work ! so would like see the opinion of fellow froggers on this.
    many thanks guys for your interesting responses,
    Matt I have used Z69s and other Ryco products for years however at $28.00 or so each this is outragous even if they are imported from South Africa.The other vehicle here is a VS you know what! I use the genuine Holden part number 92142003 the thread of which is m18x1.5 that is the same of the 504. So whilst the gasget of the holden item isnt as wide as the Pug item careful measuring with calipers shows that all of the gasget on the holden filter would contact the face on the 504. therefore I intend to try causously! the Holden filter on a 504.Why? potentially cheaper, available any where, I am also thinking that if the Holden filter can meet the needs of a relativly modern 3.80 litre it could well meet the needs of the 2 litre 504 I feel that it is worth a careful try.
    What started me thinking about this? I purchased a Purflux filter LS152B for the 504 this fits Buick ,Cadillac, Chev and Pontiac and others.The common point being the metric thread(thanks Wildbeest)
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    From RYCO website

    Vehicle Model: 504
    Engine Oil Filter
    To 3854008 4Cyl Petrol
    Z69



    From 3854009 4Cyl Petrol
    Z142A



    To 3610000 Diesel
    Z69



    From 3610001 Diesel
    Z142A



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    When I did the oil change on my GR last month I went to Repco to get a filter. They wanted $26 for a Ryco Z69! I ended getting a Fram PH2846B for about $6 from eBay. Might be worth keeping an eye out there. They come up from time to time.

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    Default 504 oil filters.

    I doffs me cap to my fellow froggers who have corrected me on my oil filter comments. I accept that the Z69 and Z142A filters fit 504's.
    I still believe the Valvoline filter packaging info could lead to problems.

    The money being asked for the Ryco Z69 filter, $26, makes the Purflux a bargain. The WA Pug club has them for $15.

    Thanks Ralph for posting the Fram part no. Now to find the local agent.

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    Then again you can get a Purflux LS152 for $14 from EAI


    Cant go wrong with the origional!!

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    I'd stick with the Purflux. Anyway, this website is pretty interesting...

    http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html

    Although they may not be the same as the ones branded the same here, it's interesting to see the differences in quality. Check it out...

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    Z154 has the correct 18mm thread, correct valving and flow direction, correct seal, and most of all correct price and availability. Good old Commodore V6 filter. My 504 thrives on them.
    Neil

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    (see it at http://www.grouseguitars.com.au/peugeot )

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugperson View Post
    Z154 has the correct 18mm thread, correct valving and flow direction, correct seal, and most of all correct price and availability. Good old Commodore V6 filter. My 504 thrives on them.
    Thanks, I might give this one a try. (Here are the Ryco specs on the two filters most often mentioned)

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