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    You cheeky devil,

    I thought you would be a good person to start a discussion of the best rim and tyre size and type to fit to a 504 manual, regular to high mileage, 50-50 city country mix.

    thanks

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    DEFINATELY not what I have on my 504 - 235/65 14. Heaps of grip in a straight line (good for drag racing), but seriously too much sidewall flex, it becomes very unpredictable when driving close to the limits of traction. For the next set of wheels on it, I will be going for a set of 505 GTi alloys, with a 205/55 15 profile, perhaps even a 195/55. They are wider rims (6") than the 604 alloys at the moment (5.5"), and by reducing the width, sidewall movement should be minimised.

    For standard 504 rims, and for everyday driving, run whatever the book says (185/65 14 from memory), with about 34psi in the back and 31-32psi in the front, otherwise they tend to be slightly understeery. This also stops Mr Plod having issues when he looks at your car and says "are they the right sized tyres for that car". I've been asked that before. That car is now off the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edgedweller
    a discussion of the best rim and tyre size and type to fit to a 504 manual, regular to high mileage, 50-50 city country mix.

    thanks

    ed ge
    Jumping in before Thanos.

    A combination I'm happy with is Cheviot Alloys and Dunlop Lemans "A"5 195/60R 14 864.

    The offset of the Cheviots widens the track nicely, the lower profile tyres sit the car that little bit lower, With 30 psi front and 35psi rear the 504 hangs on like a leach and this is with no other modification to the suspension. The lower profile tyres also give the car better accelleration and it still hums along ok at 100k.

    Great on the Gillies range road. They have just resurfaced that road too, shame the car is off the road waiting for rebirth into another shell.

    Only negative is that the Lemans squeal at the sniff of road paint.

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    Standard size is 175/80/14 or 185/75/14... the latter is a nice size for standard 14x5 rims. If you had 6-inch alloys, I probably wouldn't go wider than 195. 195/70 for 14s, 195/65 for 15s.
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    I run 195's, not much clearance at the back but the front has no worries.

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    I have had no problems with 185/75's on chevys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demannu
    DEFINATELY not what I have on my 504 - 235/65 14. Heaps of grip in a straight line (good for drag racing), but seriously too much sidewall flex, it becomes very unpredictable when driving close to the limits of traction. For the next set of wheels on it, I will be going for a set of 505 GTi alloys, with a 205/55 15 profile, perhaps even a 195/55. They are wider rims (6") than the 604 alloys at the moment (5.5"), and by reducing the width, sidewall movement should be minimised.

    For standard 504 rims, and for everyday driving, run whatever the book says (185/65 14 from memory), with about 34psi in the back and 31-32psi in the front, otherwise they tend to be slightly understeery. This also stops Mr Plod having issues when he looks at your car and says "are they the right sized tyres for that car". I've been asked that before. That car is now off the road.

    604 alloys are 6", if yours aren't then they are off a 504

    i run 215/65/14's on 6" alloys on the 604

    if i could get a set of 16" wheels for it i would run 7" rims and 225 or 235's on it

    ps i run 36 all round without any drama and it suits the car perfectly in both the 604 and 306
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    Quote Originally Posted by James504
    I have had no problems with 185/75's on chevys.

    i had 215's on cheviots on a 504 but i had to modify the rear guard lip for clearance
    3 x '78 604 SL

    1 x '98 306 GTi6

    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0


    WTD long range fuel tank for 605

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo
    604 alloys are 6", if yours aren't then they are off a 504

    i run 215/65/14's on 6" alloys on the 604

    if i could get a set of 16" wheels for it i would run 7" rims and 225 or 235's on it

    ps i run 36 all round without any drama and it suits the car perfectly in both the 604 and 306
    do you find braking distance has increased significantly with the tyres at 36? I certainly did and found 32 a good comprimise. Then again I was using finely tuned standard size bob jane no-names with years of work developing them into semi-slicks..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by ade
    do you find braking distance has increased significantly with the tyres at 36? I certainly did and found 32 a good comprimise. Then again I was using finely tuned standard size bob jane no-names with years of work developing them into semi-slicks..........

    it decreased the braking distance from the standard setting of 32 i had before when the tyres were fitted

    i run all my cars at 36
    3 x '78 604 SL

    1 x '98 306 GTi6

    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0


    WTD long range fuel tank for 605

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    Thanks guys, keep it coming.

    ed ge

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo
    it decreased the braking distance from the standard setting of 32 i had before when the tyres were fitted

    i run all my cars at 36

    probably a matter of my sub-standard setup then

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgedweller
    Thanks guys, keep it coming.

    ed ge
    Sorry for the late reply, I am on the road.

    I like 195 60 15 on 15 inch GTI rims or STI steelies.

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