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    hey guys

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    ive just got few questions,

    once ive sorced the parts for the hydraulic handbarke, which is make/buy the braket, handle and get s clutch master cylinder from a series 2 landrover.
    what else do i need in the way of connecting it??

    How do u install it??? if any body has a step by step instructions, that would be great...

    and finaly,

    Does anybody know who can install them (mabye a brake specialist, etc)???, as i dont know the first thing about installing one.

    or unless any of u aussiefrogers have got some spare time and know how to do it? $$$$

    thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike L
    hey guys

    ive just got few questions,

    once ive sorced the parts for the hydraulic handbarke, which is make/buy the braket, handle and get s clutch master cylinder from a series 2 landrover.
    what else do i need in the way of connecting it??

    How do u install it??? if any body has a step by step instructions, that would be great...

    and finaly,

    Does anybody know who can install them (mabye a brake specialist, etc)???, as i dont know the first thing about installing one.

    or unless any of u aussiefrogers have got some spare time and know how to do it? $$$$

    thanks,
    Mike
    This has probably been discussed already but, I hope this is not going on a road car and if it is I hope it's going to be in addition to the mechanical handbrake...

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    I have done this before, The idea is to insert the hydraulic handbrake's master cylinder into the brakeline that runs from the standard master cylinder to the splitter that then runs to the rear brakes.

    The hydraulic handbrake's master cylinder must have the ability to recieve a standard brake line fitting as its imput. I have always used a Fiat 600 master cylinder, what year model escapes me.

    Fabricating the brakelines is best left to the experts, so make up a template in strong wire and have them bend and flare a brakeline to match when you have everything fitted to the car.

    As advised by mistareno if this is a road car the standard hand brake must remain and ****ion as normal.

    I have also used a foot operated hydraulic handbrake using a 4th pedal (to the left of the clutch) again with a Fiat 600 master cylinder firewall mounted. This was very effective for motokana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistareno
    This has probably been discussed already but, I hope this is not going on a road car and if it is I hope it's going to be in addition to the mechanical handbrake...
    its going in my Ti, but i have the mechanical handbrake under the dash, so it is hard to use in motorsport, and dont worry, i wont get them mixed up when parking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 750sport
    I have always used a Fiat 600 master cylinder, what year model escapes me.

    Fabricating the brakelines is best left to the experts, so make up a template in strong wire and have them bend and flare a brakeline to match when you have everything fitted to the car.
    i will look in to the Fiat 600 master cylinder,

    so who would i be looking at in the ways of experts??? cuz if i can get someone to do it i will.

    mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike L
    i will look in to the Fiat 600 master cylinder,

    so who would i be looking at in the ways of experts??? cuz if i can get someone to do it i will.

    mike
    I've got a friend of a friend doing mine, who's familiar with old pugs. Don't be in a hurry though, and cash only...would you like the no.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike L
    i will look in to the Fiat 600 master cylinder,

    so who would i be looking at in the ways of experts??? cuz if i can get someone to do it i will.

    mike
    The Land Rover ones (clutch master with remote reservoir) are about $30 new at the 4wd place near the corner of Middleborough and Canterbury roads.
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    Remote reservoir does not ussually suffice as imput is the output from the standard master cylinder to rear brakes so is very high pressure, it is OK if it takes a standard brake line fitting.

    Remember that the piston in the hydraulic handbrake's master cylinder will be forced back against the circlip under normal braking, some thing that it is not normally designed for, so check the circlip for strength and upgrade if nessessary.

    The handbrake will need to operate a pushrod to move the piston in the master cylinder, I made sure that when hand brake is not being used the pushrod just held the piston away from the circlip and it took the rear braking load directly rather than the circlip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 750sport
    Remote reservoir does not ussually suffice as imput is the output from the standard master cylinder to rear brakes so is very high pressure, it is OK if it takes a standard brake line fitting.

    Remember that the piston in the hydraulic handbrake's master cylinder will be forced back against the circlip under normal braking, some thing that it is not normally designed for, so check the circlip for strength and upgrade if nessessary.

    The handbrake will need to operate a pushrod to move the piston in the master cylinder, I made sure that when hand brake is not being used the pushrod just held the piston away from the circlip and it took the rear braking load directly rather than the circlip.
    Yes, standard high pressure fitting from the remote reservoir (not used of course).
    Yes, need to make sure the circlip doesn't take the load.and most importantly never use the hydraulic handbrake to hold the car on a hill. I learnt my lesson when the car took off down my steep driveway!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by casnell
    I've got a friend of a friend doing mine, who's familiar with old pugs. Don't be in a hurry though, and cash only...would you like the no.?
    Chris
    yer, that would b great, could u email me his details, and ill get in contact with him,

    email: [email protected]

    thanks
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