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    hey guys,

    im looking at getting some hub adaptors (4x100) made up for my 98 306 XSi, and was wondering if anyone knew any machining places where i can get them done?

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    i dont want to pay heaps, and apparently someone made a post a few weeks ago about some cheap cnc machining place or something...i did a search, but couldnt find it.

    cheers, and thanks in advance

    Anthony

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    4 x 108

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT
    4 x 108

    yeah i know the pug is 4x108, but i want the hub adaptors to be made up for a 4x100 fitment (ie: honda etc)

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    This sounds illegal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi
    This sounds illegal!
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    ummm, if you know what they are you'll realise it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi
    This sounds illegal!
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    LOL.....are you serious????

    pfft....far from it my friend!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ants
    hey guys,

    im looking at getting some hub adaptors (4x100) made up for my 98 306 XSi, and was wondering if anyone knew any machining places where i can get them done?


    i dont want to pay heaps, and apparently someone made a post a few weeks ago about some cheap cnc machining place or something...i did a search, but couldnt find it.

    cheers, and thanks in advance

    Anthony
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    or PM ChriS16 he had a set made for his ex-S16
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    hi ants,


    rock up to any TTF and theyll make the appropriate measurements. it will cost you only $70 a corner and i think about a 1 week turn around.
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    Sorry for my ignorence(again), but I was imagining the spacer style hub adaptor common in four wheel drive catalogs, that screws in, in place of the wheel, and has the the new size on its outside face.
    Obviously you guys are talking about a diferent system that I have no knowlage of, and I am very interested in learning about.
    Are there any pics or websites that illustrate this style of hub adaptor???
    Cheers, jo

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugjet
    hi ants,


    rock up to any TTF and theyll make the appropriate measurements. it will cost you only $70 a corner and i think about a 1 week turn around.

    Thanks for the reply's guys.

    at the risk of sounding lost.....whats TTF???????

    thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi
    Sorry for my ignorence(again), but I was imagining the spacer style hub adaptor common in four wheel drive catalogs, that screws in, in place of the wheel, and has the the new size on its outside face.
    Obviously you guys are talking about a diferent system that I have no knowlage of, and I am very interested in learning about.
    Are there any pics or websites that illustrate this style of hub adaptor???
    Cheers, jo

    Actually Jo, that's exactly what we're talking about.
    Bolts on as 4x108 with 4x100 studs on the outer face.
    When I looked into it about 6 years ago it was legal in Victoria as it bolts onto the hub, whereas just a simple spacer that sits between the wheel and hub would not be roadworthy.

    Ants, TTF = the tyre factory.
    Reggie, you sure that's not just a normal spacer you're talking about?
    It's either a very cheap hub adaptor or expensive spacer.

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    Hey ants, I wasn't joking when I said that. I dont know about Victoria, but the NSW RTA has this to say...
    'The fitment of wheel spacers(or adaptors for dual wheel conversions) between the wheel mounting face and the road wheel is not permitted unless fitted as original equiptment by the manufacturer.'
    I too was looking at that solution for my wheels being too far in towards the center of the car, but the legalities stopped me short, and I sold the wheels.
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    And what's to stop you bolting spacers to the inside of the wheel?

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    PS .just looked up vic roads vehicle standards information, no 26, june 2001, and it reads much the same as the NSW Blurb.
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    Ouch my head hurts!.. leaving the victorian rules aside, as I am not familiar with them, the NSW RTA info says...
    " The wheel must be one designed for the particular hub/axle in respect to bolt pitch circle diameter and wheel nut tapers .Wheels with slotted stud holes are not permitted.

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    Yeah, they were fairly common thirty years ago... but only for 5-stud applications. They clearly wouldn't work on 4-stud.

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    it probably wouldnbt be too hard to just change the PCD on the exsisting hub by refitting the studs in new positions, it would look original and factory etc and it would keep the track width on the factory settings.

    only problem would be when you go to change the rotors, it would go back to the normal pattern

    PS. you're not going to spoil a nice pug with Honda bits are you??????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreas
    Ants, TTF = the tyre factory.

    Reggie, you sure that's not just a normal spacer you're talking about?
    It's either a very cheap hub adaptor or expensive spacer.
    yeah absolutely certain.

    yeah "proper" custom hub adaptors, and not spacers. for $70 a corner and a short turn around time, its pretty unbelievable, but they offer it. this is going back about 2 months.
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    Hub adapotors are fine...i got Harrop Engineering to make up mine years ago.
    Dont worry Anthony is not going to spoil the XSi with honda bits fact is the range of rims available for a Honda fitment is huge and also very cheap for 2nd had rims.

    The available range for a Pug fitment is small and expensive.
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    ... and how much did those harrop hubbies cost you alex back in the day?!

    makes you wanna cry, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCPUG
    Hub adapotors are fine...i got Harrop Engineering to make up mine years ago.
    Dont worry Anthony is not going to spoil the XSi with honda bits fact is the range of rims available for a Honda fitment is huge and also very cheap for 2nd had rims.

    The available range for a Pug fitment is small and expensive.
    yep Alex is right, just want them to give myself a wider choice of 2nd hand rims to choose from.

    im not gonna rice up the pug

    thanks HEAPS for all the comments guys, been extremely helpful.

    looks like ill contact the tyre factory, and also this dude from Felix Engineering, whoever is cheaper, will most likely get my business!!!!

    oh one las thing, do i need to worry abt things like offsets???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ants
    yep Alex is right, just want them to give myself a wider choice of 2nd hand rims to choose from.

    im not gonna rice up the pug

    thanks HEAPS for all the comments guys, been extremely helpful.

    looks like ill contact the tyre factory, and also this dude from Felix Engineering, whoever is cheaper, will most likely get my business!!!!

    oh one las thing, do i need to worry abt things like offsets???
    Of course you will need to worry abt things like offset.You'll need to work out the the original offset, and adjust acording to the thickness off the spacer. Might be worth doing the calculations first,based apon an 'average' honda wheel, as you dont want to end up with such a strange offset that you are back in the same boat where you need exotic/expensive wheels to fit.
    Jo

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