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    I need some new engine mounts, and I'm wondering should I just go to a pug dealer to get them, or are there any "better" after market ones available.

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    anyone looked into non-stock engine mounts for an S16?

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    I did, but they turned out to be to hard (thus causing other things to wear faster) or too expensive. So I never bothered.
    I used genuine pug units and they lasted lots of "spirited" driving.
    But what the saving grace was I attached a shock absorber from the top engine mount to the drivers side strut in the engine bay. I used a second hand steering damper from a motorbike ($40 from any bike wrecker) and made up my own brakets etc with bits 'n pieces from bunnings. It let the engine rock forth and bacjk but at a much more controlled and smoother motion. It helped my engine mounts survive lots of track work, and made things a little bit smoother too. - Chris
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHRI'S16
    I did, but they turned out to be to hard (thus causing other things to wear faster) or too expensive. So I never bothered.
    I used genuine pug units and they lasted lots of "spirited" driving.
    But what the saving grace was I attached a shock absorber from the top engine mount to the drivers side strut in the engine bay. I used a second hand steering damper from a motorbike ($40 from any bike wrecker) and made up my own brakets etc with bits 'n pieces from bunnings. It let the engine rock forth and bacjk but at a much more controlled and smoother motion. It helped my engine mounts survive lots of track work, and made things a little bit smoother too. - Chris
    Thanks Chris. I might get them done when I get the fuel filler recall work done have you got any pics of your damper mod?

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    Good idea, Chris!

    By the way, these are available as aftermarket add-ons for various cars, the Mini (the original) being one that comes to mind. May be adaptable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintermute
    Thanks Chris. I might get them done when I get the fuel filler recall work done have you got any pics of your damper mod?

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    Sorry Tony, but i'm one of those silly buggers who doesn't own a camera! sadd really. But if you go to any descent motorbike wrecker and literally ask for a "steering damper" of any model, although a TLR suzuki was what I used; take a real close look at it and beging to think how you can mount it.
    I mounted it like this. In the engine bay on the drivers side strut tower there is x2 black bolts. I used a T shapped braket. The top part of the T bolted to the strut, the straight part whent onto one end of the steering damper. This leaves the other part (the moving ram) free to bolt to either the engine crane eye bolts, or as i did via another custom bracket to the top engine mount.
    When you hold the damper in between the strut and the engine you can start to picture how it will fit. - Chris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey
    Good idea, Chris!

    By the way, these are available as aftermarket add-ons for various cars, the Mini (the original) being one that comes to mind. May be adaptable...

    Stuey
    Stuey, you don't want to know how much these cost. They are a common add on to hi-po rotaries for hard launching. So I asked ADVAN (who are a jap part specialist) how much? The fixed model was $499 and the adjustable was $550, amitedly they were of very high quality and had/came with lots of mounting options, but for that price i'm better of fitting new engine mounts. I'm sure though the mini one would have been cheaper.
    But for the $40 i spent at my local bike wrecker..... job done i think. - Chris
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHRI'S16
    Stuey, you don't want to know how much these cost. They are a common add on to hi-po rotaries for hard launching. So I asked ADVAN (who are a jap part specialist) how much? The fixed model was $499 and the adjustable was $550, amitedly they were of very high quality and had/came with lots of mounting options, but for that price i'm better of fitting new engine mounts. I'm sure though the mini one would have been cheaper.
    But for the $40 i spent at my local bike wrecker..... job done i think. - Chris
    Thanks Chris,

    Certainly a lot cheaper than the pro one!!! I need one for my morris too when I get it going again..... The only problem I'm having is visualising the brackets for the S16, I'm assuming the one on the strut is quite long? I'll have to go have a look, from memory the strut and the engine mount are almost in line, I would have imagined the damper having to be at 90 degrees to the engine block to be effective, but I guess 45 degrees would work too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintermute
    Thanks Chris,

    Certainly a lot cheaper than the pro one!!! I need one for my morris too when I get it going again..... The only problem I'm having is visualising the brackets for the S16, I'm assuming the one on the strut is quite long? I'll have to go have a look, from memory the strut and the engine mount are almost in line, I would have imagined the damper having to be at 90 degrees to the engine block to be effective, but I guess 45 degrees would work too.

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    The best way to visualize if it will fit, is to get a mid/largish flathead screw driver and hold it in the gap between the drivers strut tower and the case of the timing belt. Start measuring and sketching an idea and work from there. Most steering dampers are about that size if not a little bigger. - Chris
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    Chris thats a fantastic idea ive seen that on some Drift Silvias from japan.
    My engine has way to much flex for my liking and ive contemplated aftermarket engine mounts.

    But your idea is much better.

    When you say that harder mounts put strain on other components can you please elaborate? Things such as cv joints, driveshafts ect i presume??

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