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    Hi fellas, im in need of a oil change soon and i was wondering what the best oil would be to use on my s16. I dont mind spending abit extra cash for some good quality oil.. Im thinkin mobil 1, any other ideas.. and what viscosity would be suitable?

    also, does anyone know what type oil filter is on a 1994 s16? and where abouts to get one

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    I have been using Shell Helix Ultra(5w-40) for years in my S16 and have had reliable trouble free motoring. Change oil each service at 10,000 km and oil still looks clean. At around $50 for 5 litres it is much cheaper than Mobil 1 although M1 is a better oil ultimately. Mobil Syn S is a lot cheaper and are beleived to be a top oil as well but it is not a full synthetic.
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    hey doosh i used to use mobil 1 and mobil s, both pretty good oils, but the last 20k on the car i was using the elf range do a search there is a thread on here about elf oils.

    Car ran like a dream on elf and its also the current oil im using on the swift.

    As for oil filters i jus used to use the original puraflux they range in price from about 15 to $20.

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    I will put in another vote for Shell Helix Ultra. I have used it exclusively for the last 6 years.

    Fully synthetic and still under $50 at supercheap where the mobil1 is $60.

    Cheaper oils might do the job as well but why take the chance? Problem is how do you tell except by driving the car till it wears out then looking inside.... and this is a long term project with a pug.
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    Thanks for the reply fellas!

    just a few other questions.. but would it be best to use a engine flush to get rid of all the old oil? or would it stil be cool just to empty out the old and top up with the new?

    Is 5W - 40 what everyone uses in their S16?

    how would i go about changing the sparkplugs?

    and, where abouts can i get elf oil from?


    sorry if these questions sound dumb
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    I run AMsoil 10W-40 in the GTi6. I thought the S16 ran the same oil... anyway, 5W-40 would work just fine... especially if you do a lot of city driving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DooshDoosh
    .. but would it be best to use a engine flush to get rid of all the old oil? or would it stil be cool just to empty out the old and top up with the new?
    Don't use engine flush; it's not needed or desirable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey
    Don't use engine flush; it's not needed or desirable.
    Why do you say that? I've always run a flush if going from Mineral based oil to a full synthetic...
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    .. I'm real silly with my engine oil(s).
    I use a 3 part mix of Castrol Magnatec 15-50, at 30% of mixture. Then any brand full synth 5-40, at 50%. The remaning 20% I use LUCAS oil stabaliser. It's a mix I picked up from my old track days, and several of the lads that raced twin cam style engines used it. I can only speak of my foundings and the ultra reliability it has given my engine.
    It's not a cheap excercise, but it leaves enough oil to do 2 changes. As for oil filter the RYCO equivalent is a great fit and a little bigger. Never failed and probably a little cheaper than the purflux, not any better though.
    I don't bother with a fulsh in the engine oil either, but can't see it hurting. As I have been using this formula for about 4 years.... I need to do more k's in the car to really see the benefits. - Chris
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    Guys,

    What sort of oil pressure are you seeing in the S16's?

    (see other post by TimS16 - "S16 Oil gauge reading")

    We both are experiencing fluctuation and low pressure
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    Im leaning towards mobil 1 as ive heard good things, but would 5W - 40 be fine?

    I was thinking 10W - 40 may be better suited, but im not sure..??




    sorry DanS16, cant comment on the oil pressure, as mine doesnt work ay

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    Quote Originally Posted by DooshDoosh
    Im leaning towards mobil 1 as ive heard good things, but would 5W - 40 be fine?

    I was thinking 10W - 40 may be better suited, but im not sure..??




    sorry DanS16, cant comment on the oil pressure, as mine doesnt work ay
    Mobil don't make a 5W-40, they make a 5W-50, which I just have doubts over it's stability. I'd go for BP Visco 5W-40 full synthetic. It's a very good oil at an awesome price.

    Otherwise, you'd pretty much have to go for a Motul for a 10W-40... which uses a diester base, which is more stable than a PAO based oil... or so they say.
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    If u dont mind spending a bit more get the Redline Synthetic oil.
    Its about $100 for 5 litres however but well worth it.

    I think the only stockist is Oilworld in Moorabin, Melbourne


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    I would have thought ppl in Sydney who service with Paul Vassalo would have mentioned Neo Racing oil (syntetic) - I've got that in my beast at the moment

    around $65 for 5L (not the diaster based fully syntetic - that's $130 for 5L)
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    Quote Originally Posted by slick
    I would have thought ppl in Sydney who service with Paul Vassalo would have mentioned Neo Racing oil (syntetic) - I've got that in my beast at the moment

    around $65 for 5L (not the diaster based fully syntetic - that's $130 for 5L)
    Yep, if you're using Paul, I'd be using the Neo or the Elf Excellium
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    Just on this topic,

    What do people think of Castrol FMX ? the last 3 services I have had on the Mi16 the mechanic has used this. Prior to that he always used Castrol TXT but does not stock it anymore as there were only about 2-3 people who would pay the extra for it.

    Any thoughts ? I'm due a service now so it would be worth knowing

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    There's Magnetic FMX and FMX, one is 10W-30 and the other 15W-40. I would think the 15W-40 is a bit too heavy to run in the MI16, but with a few miles getting on, I guess it'd be fine to run in it.

    Not 100% sure which one you're running though. They're both semi-synthetics so are decent, but should be replaced every 5-6000 kms.
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    It's just normal FMX not FMX magnetic.

    Would a thinner oil make it run any better or cooler ? The car will have run up 190,000 at it's next service!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pug_405_Mi16
    It's just normal FMX not FMX magnetic.

    Would a thinner oil make it run any better or cooler ? The car will have run up 190,000 at it's next service!

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    It should make it run cooler and in Tassie it'd be more suited to your conditions. However, if you've been using 15W for a while and you've done 190,000kms, the tolerances might be a bit looser now. I'd still give a 10W a go and keep an eye on oil usage.

    You should find it runs cooler and uses less fuel.
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    Going to change it over to TXT at the change on Thursday which is a 5w30 which is what I think the book calls for in this engine ?

    I assume TXT is a good oil *at the price it bloody well should be*

    Thanks for the advice, and sorry for the thread high jack
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pug_405_Mi16
    Going to change it over to TXT at the change on Thursday which is a 5w30 which is what I think the book calls for in this engine ?

    I assume TXT is a good oil *at the price it bloody well should be*

    Thanks for the advice, and sorry for the thread high jack
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    Thanks...will do
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTI124
    Why do you say that? I've always run a flush if going from Mineral based oil to a full synthetic...
    Where manufacturers care to mention it, they usually suggest not to. In any case, why? You either end up with a tiny amount of residual mineral oil in your synthetic, or a tiny amount of engine flush and tinier amount of mineral oil. A waste of money for no benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey
    Where manufacturers care to mention it, they usually suggest not to. In any case, why? You either end up with a tiny amount of residual mineral oil in your synthetic, or a tiny amount of engine flush and tinier amount of mineral oil. A waste of money for no benefit.

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    I'd prefer to not have a tiny amount of sludge in my oil...a flush doesn't cost that much...
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    AMSOIL Engine Flush: In a new engine with less than approximately 15,000 miles it is not imperative that AMSOIL Engine Flush be used. In an engine with more than 15,000 miles and beyond, that has been using petroleum oil the entire time, we highly recommend using the AMSOIL Engine Flush. What the engine flush will do is remove the petroleum oil sludge & varnish deposits from your engine and properly prepare your engine for AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oil..... AMSOIL's engine Flush is a detergent based flush with some kerosene and other petroleum distillates that act as the carrier for the flushing and cleaning agents. The detergent used is a 2-butoxyethanol, glycol ether and is essentially a very concentrated form of the detergents used in motor oil.

    As Lincoln said, its a cheap way to ensure you more expensve oil is not polluted before the car is driven after the oil change.

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