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    Default Magnets on the Oil Filter?

    Has anyone tried one of those magnetic oil filters, or anyone stuck some magnets on theirs & then opened it up to see whats been captured?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nate
    Has anyone tried one of those magnetic oil filters, or anyone stuck some magnets on theirs & then opened it up to see whats been captured?
    I've seen the metal collected in gearboxes with magnets .. wouldn't be surprised if you found "something" on the oil filter ??

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    hihih or imagine what your mangents wil attrack at slow speeds..

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    quick question for the uninformed...

    which way around does the oil flow. From the outer portion through the element, from the inner portion through the element or some weird-wackarse-hoodoo multi-channel complex route ?

    i am just wondering as i have seen many different orientations pointing up, pointing down, laying sideways etc. How come the crap doesnt just fall back out of the filter when the oil flow is interrupted (stopped) ?

    why is it always the simple things i dont know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTI124

    That's a top site Linc, pity it wasn't posted a few weeks back when I was trying to suggest to some of these guys that they need to update their knowledge of oil filters. It also is talking about developments in the field.
    FWIW, there's been a company in the US being getting involved in this magnetic technology in filters for a while. If anyone goes to the site I posted on the Oils ain't Oils thread they will find reference to it. (Scroll well down)

    http://www.chris-longhurst.com/carbi...yre_bible.html

    As the filter company has now shifted, here's their current link:

    http://www.oneeyeindustries.com/domestic.asp

    From all accounts it will work and Longhurst writes it up reasonably well, but I think it needs to be remembered that this doesn't do any greater job of ridding an engine of acids, moisture, general contamination or white metal or alloys so whilst it will improve the situation, there's still a lot of other nasties circulating, but removing anything ferro has to be a step in the right direction. However, the latest developments in filtration when used in conjunction with this technology should make it very efficient.


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    yeah, spot on Alan...

    Every little bit "helps" in someway... but one of those sites pointed out the worst offenders are silicas (dust, etc) and wont be attracted by the magnet.

    So its not a complete solution, but maybe a slight improvement.

    I'll post pics if i can remember to cut open the old one!

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    I know this could be considered dragging this otherwise excellent thread off course. But:

    If you had a magnetic oil filter and were running Castrol Magnatec Oil would all the oil just pool in the filter?
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    Magnatec != magnetic

    "Sticks like a magnet"
    I think its more of a capilliary (cohesive force) thing happening with the oil, anyone know for sure?

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    There's nothin actually magnetic in Magnatech; I think you'll find it's just a figure of speech indicating that the additives in the oil makes the oil adhere to the metal as though it were magnetic. A bit like static elecricity will make a piece of paper stick to plastic.
    Actually, I think one of those sites (possibly Longhursts) goes into a bit of detail on Magnatec

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    Magnatec is just a mineral oil with a PAO added to it. PAO has the feature of "sticking" to metal. There's nothing revolutionary in Castrol Magnatec, it's been in oil for 50 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gti138
    I know this could be considered dragging this otherwise excellent thread off course. But:

    If you had a magnetic oil filter and were running Castrol Magnatec Oil would all the oil just pool in the filter?
    My first thought was the magnets may improve the oil 10% as it flows past the magnets - just like those things you can put on fuel lines to improve your fuel consumption and power. Just kidding!!!!

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    Hasnít anyone heard of a magnetic sump plug?
    These can be purchased from just about anywhere.
    Or, drill/machine, out the centre of a spare sump plug, (in case the first attempt is less than successful), and "locktite" in a Nb magnet or similar.

    Regular oil and filter changes will negate the need for any magnets or concerns about silica/white metal/Silastic, small birds and other crap circulating in the engine.

    If you are worried about metal shavings in the engine, then start thinking about a new engine, a magnet is not going to stave off the inevitable nasty noise under the bonnet and a long walk home.
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    I realise that Magnatec isnt magnetic. It works by mollecular attraction or something along those lines. However the thought was just teasing me!

    Now let's all go put an energy polariser on our cars to make them "feel" better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamma
    Hasnít anyone heard of a magnetic sump plug?
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    Citroens up until recently had them fitted as standard fit and to my knowledge still do to the transmission.
    Biggest fright I had was when I went to do a transmission oil change on a CX that had been serviced by well known Sydney service agents and found I had problems getting the oil to flow out due to the amount of steel including teeth firmly attached to the magnetic drain plug that had jammed the drain hole amost totally.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gti138
    I realise that Magnatec isnt magnetic. It works by mollecular attraction or something along those lines. However the thought was just teasing me!

    Now let's all go put an energy polariser on our cars to make them "feel" better!
    Yes, you were being fuunnnnnnny. I still wanted to clarify the Magnetic has nothing special in it over any other semi-synth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTI124
    Yes, you were being fuunnnnnnny. I still wanted to clarify the Magnetic has nothing special in it over any other semi-synth.
    I just couldnt help myself Lincoln
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    Quote Originally Posted by gti138
    I just couldnt help myself Lincoln
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan S
    Citroens up until recently had them fitted as standard fit and to my knowledge still do to the transmission.
    Biggest fright I had was when I went to do a transmission oil change on a CX that had been serviced by well known Sydney service agents and found I had problems getting the oil to flow out due to the amount of steel including teeth firmly attached to the magnetic drain plug that had jammed the drain hole amost totally.


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    Sounds like it was to late for a magnetic sump plug.

    Note how I sugested the magnet be "locktited" in. I have had a bought one come unstuck and get sucked into an oil pump in a 202.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gti138
    Now let's all go put an energy polariser on our cars to make them "feel" better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by edgedweller
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    Quote Originally Posted by jester_fu
    Yep... i'm up for one of those energy polarisers. Seen any on e-bay lately GTi138?
    No but everyone from Holden goes strangely quiet when you mention them. I love working at Holden and stiring them up

    Edit: Found one! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....sPageName=WDVW
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    Quote Originally Posted by gti138
    No but everyone from Holden goes strangely quiet when you mention them. I love working at Holden and stiring them up

    Edit: Found one! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....sPageName=WDVW
    What is it?

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    The Engergy Polarizer was something that brocky got into in the late 80's. Aparantly it improves fuel economy, reduces tyre wear and generally makes the car feel "better". I believe in reality it was nothing more than a plastic box with magnets and crystals in it. It caused the big fallout between brock & holden.
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