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    Ok, so it seems the engine in the '87 205 I got has been pretty much internally fried, at least to such an extent that I'm not confident that there's anything salvageable in it. The mechanic's in the process of finding a block, crank, head etc, and we're going to put new pistons and liners etc in. He's taking his time doing it, which is fine because I'd rather do it properly the first time, which brings me to the crux of the matter.

    The car's no longer going to be built up for racing down the track, but I want something pretty tuff to have fun with on the street (test out the new konis ) and I want to do it right the first time. So the obvious answer power-wise is to find a JAZ engine, rebuild it and then transplant I guess? I'm 90% sure that you can get the engine itself out of the 8v 405s, but are there any problems I should expect to encounter trying to get this done in terms of compatibility and parts?

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    oops forgot to mention:
    Provided I could source stuff from a 405 can the wiring loom be used or do I have to keep hunting?
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    dammit, forgot again:
    Driveshafts? do they have to be changed? I have heard that the number of splines on the s1 and s3 are different.
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    To the best of my knowledge, the 405 never came out in Australia with the JAZ (XU9JAZ) motor, these where only avaliable in the later 205s. The series 1 405s all had the XU9J2 motor, except of course for the Mi16s (XU9J4Z in oz). The series 2 405s used the XU10J2 and XU10J4.

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    hmmmm ok. Looks like the wrecker's been telling porkies.

    If I can't find the essentials in full, how hard would it be to build a JAZ then?
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    Even better idea. Unless you want to go down the Mi16 route, find a 1.6 litre head and camshaft to put onto your 1.9 litre block. Brings the compression ratio right up, and has a nice camshaft to match. They go hard. Use the later model Motronic injection, you'll be in business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demannu
    To the best of my knowledge, the 405 never came out in Australia with the JAZ (XU9JAZ) motor, these where only avaliable in the later 205s. The series 1 405s all had the XU9J2 motor, except of course for the Mi16s (XU9J4Z in oz). The series 2 405s used the XU10J2 and XU10J4.
    The 405 definitley did come out with the JAZ motor. This was the best 405 in my opinion as I dislike the interior of the series 2 cars.
    GHraham

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    It did indeed. Later series 1 (or series 1.5) from late 1991 on? It's a 1.9 but has 90kw, compared to around 80kw of the earlier cars. Since the later 205 GTis had 90kw it must be the same spec.
    John W

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