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    Default New Quaife lsd bulk buy

    I am organising another bulk purchase of Quaife ATB (automatic torque biasing) diff centres from Quaife Engineering in the UK. (www.quaife.co.uk)

    Diffs for FWD BE-type transmissions (205,206,306,309 & 405 models) will be available at the end of July.

    These are a popular item especially in motorsport overseas, and Quaife will manufacture only 100 units for the worldwide market. (note: their last production run sold out in 3 weeks).

    The all-up price should be around $1200-1300 delivered (ie: 20% discount), depending on quantity & exchange rates.

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    They no longer stock diffs for earlier RWD Pugs, but will re-manufacture for quantities of 10 or more. Diffs for other makes also available.

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    Ok, a few questions.

    1)can i use this both in my 306 & a 205gti?
    2) Are they easy to take out of a 306 & then into a 205gti?

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    Definitely interested in purchasing one this time around for the GTi 180. I have emailed Quaife to ask if they know of or foresee any problems installing one in the 180. If anyone can see it being a problem, please let me know. Someone on 206GTi.net said that there could be problems with the traction control and ABS but didn't give any details. I would have thought that if a wheel lost traction, the LSD would compensate before the TC would know and if both wheels lost traction then the TC would come into it. I didn't think the ABS would come into it as the LSD is working on the driveshaft and wouldn't affect it. Anyways, I'll let everyone know what Quaife have to say about it.

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    If I understood your post correctly and you won't require the money until the end of July, then I'll be up for one for my '88 205 GTI.

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    Count me in. How do we pay for it?
    Take the long way home....

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    Purrr-geot,

    Both the 306 & 205 use BE type boxes & the Quaife unit fits them all.

    As for swapping it from car to car,you'll need to drop the sub-frame from both cars to get the diff housing off.


    DJ-Studd,

    Probably mid-July would be better.

    The bulk buy is on a first-come-first-served basis, so the earlier you've paid (in the event Quaife under-supply us), the better chance you have of recieving one.


    Jastanis,

    I'll PM you.


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    i'll get one too. BE3/5 for '04 Xsara VTS.

    Jude (Jastanis) have you organised somewhere to have it installed. I was thinking if we both get one, get them shipped together and get them installed together in the vain hope it works out cheaper. What do you think ?

    -Quentin

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    Is a relative novice like myself going to be able to install it?

    Does anyone know of a full, detailed guide to removing the subframe and all other required things, installing the diff, then putting it all back together?

    Thanks!
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    Here is a guide to the instalation

    http://www.205gtidrivers.com/index2.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by parry
    Here is a guide to the instalation

    http://www.205gtidrivers.com/index2.html
    I've read that one several times, however it expects that you have already removed the gearbox..

    Ta.
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    Jeff,

    Let me know how we can take care of the dollars!!


    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by XsaraVTS
    i'll get one too. BE3/5 for '04 Xsara VTS.

    Jude (Jastanis) have you organised somewhere to have it installed. I was thinking if we both get one, get them shipped together and get them installed together in the vain hope it works out cheaper. What do you think ?

    -Quentin
    Quentin, yep I think that's a good idea. I'll have a talk to my mechanic about it soon to see if he can do it. His rates are very good. If he can't, we could contact a few different specialist gearbox places to see if they can. I'm pretty keen on getting someone reputable to do it, and there's no way I'm going to attempt it myself..even if all my tools weren't in Sydney and even if I did have a workshop/shed/garage here (sigh, know anyone who'd rent me a decent size house with all of that and near the city reasonably cheap?? ), I wouldn't trust myself. The '6's gearbox is apparently around 7 grand..so any work done on it is going to be done properly!
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    Me, Me, Me

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    Am looking for a diff for the 504... so if people are up for older model diffs, hop on in too!

    lemme know whats going on in that department... rwd.. only rwd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zen
    Definitely interested in purchasing one this time around for the GTi 180. I have emailed Quaife to ask if they know of or foresee any problems installing one in the 180. If anyone can see it being a problem, please let me know. Someone on 206GTi.net said that there could be problems with the traction control and ABS but didn't give any details. I would have thought that if a wheel lost traction, the LSD would compensate before the TC would know and if both wheels lost traction then the TC would come into it. I didn't think the ABS would come into it as the LSD is working on the driveshaft and wouldn't affect it. Anyways, I'll let everyone know what Quaife have to say about it.

    Rich

    Rich,

    Word from Quaife regarding the GTi180 is that technically there are no problems as long as the car is fitted with a BE transmission.

    Progress:

    They have already started manufacturing many of the components & hope for them to be available end of July.


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    Thanks for the reply, Jeff.

    Got an email back from Quaife as follows:


    Thank you for your e-mail of 13th June. We are pleased to confirm that there should be no problems as this is a direct replacement for the original. Price details are as follows:

    QDF 3H @ 490.00 gbp - (no stock at present - available end July)

    Delivery @90.00 gbp

    If you require any further information, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

    Regards.

    Sales Dept

    Quaife Engineering Ltd
    So all's good, I'll PM you.

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    damn if only i had the money

    Dammit i need an LSD in time for August
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    Jezz Jeff

    These things are going like hot cakes....

    Count me in....

    In regard to the 180's Q: the LSD will provide more mechanical grip, therefore the traction control will have less need to cut in. Basically it runs off the ABS sensors which tell the ECU that the wheel is spinning at a greater rate than the car is moving and activating the brake or cutting the engine as required. So more fun & less gizmo's getting in the way....

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    so we're looking at about $1,500 delivered and $500 fitted? hmm i dunno i'm supposed to be going overseas in september

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeighO
    so we're looking at about $1,500 delivered and $500 fitted? hmm i dunno i'm supposed to be going overseas in september
    If you bought one of them direct it would cost you that but read the start of the thread. On a bulk buy we'll be looking at a 20% discount (or there abouts). It's a pretty serious piece of equipment but if you don't drive the car to the point of traction loss then it's not worth it. Like to hear from people who bought last time who haven't posted in the last bulk buy thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeighO
    so we're looking at about $1,500 delivered and $500 fitted? hmm i dunno i'm supposed to be going overseas in september

    LeighO,

    The first batch of diffs cost $1200 + delivery when the exchange rate was 40p-A$1.

    The exchange rate is weaker atm, so final cost may be a little higher.

    Delivery (incl insurance) eg: Melb to Syd was $30 using AusPost.

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    aaaarrrgggggghhhh

    after getting hyped up after the last round I find I'm in no position for this one either (financially or otherwise). Is there anyone who thinks they'd be up for another group buy in a few months, say Oct-Nov?

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    unfortunately Quaife don't have these things hanging around on diff-trees ripe for the picking. The units are built in batches. It just so happens that the next BE batch is the end of July. Im sure they'll sell out quick and it'll be a while before they'll be readily available again.


    How many people have committed (monetary wise) so far and what is the latest i could leave it. Although ill propbably pay soon

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    Actually how long do they last?

    i'm thinking about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by XsaraVTS
    unfortunately Quaife don't have these things hanging around on diff-trees ripe for the picking. The units are built in batches. It just so happens that the next BE batch is the end of July. Im sure they'll sell out quick and it'll be a while before they'll be readily available again.

    Whoa, whoa. What's with the patronising attitude?! I was making that statement under with the fact that there had been two batches with sales to AFers in the last four months. No need to start bagging.

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