PSA steering wheel splines. All the same?
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    I've put a Peugeot 206 steering wheel in an m49 Citroen Berlingo and found that the part of the clock spring that triggers the auto-cancel on the indicators is 90 degrees out of place. Otherwise it's compatible.

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    I'm wondering if the splines are always the same size, as I can find 306 boss adaptors (for aftermarket steering wheels), but I can't find any for my 405.
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    I'm curious about this too, but more as it relates to 505,405,205 sameness.
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    205 and 405 splines/bosses are identical. Although the overall diameter of a 405 wheel is approx. 25mm larger.

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    We fitted an aftermarket 405 wheel to my mates series 2 505 for autocross. The indicator cancel needed modification but worked

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blufires View Post
    I've put a Peugeot 206 steering wheel in an m49 Citroen Berlingo and found that the part of the clock spring that triggers the auto-cancel on the indicators is 90 degrees out of place. Otherwise it's compatible.

    I'm wondering if the splines are always the same size, as I can find 306 boss adaptors (for aftermarket steering wheels), but I can't find any for my 405.

    Peugeot 306 N3's steering wheels have a tapered spline and I suspect the M49 Berlingo does as well, both held with a nut (same vintage)
    The later 306 N5 steering wheels have a parallel spline along with the M59 Berlingo's and are secured with a Torx headed bolt.
    I discovered this several years ago and ended up using a pair of vice grips on the M59 as a tiller to reposition in the yard

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    That's odd. My '99 206 GTi wheel was a torx bolt and so was my '01 Berlingo. My '95 405 is a nut (which needs a deep socket - luckily it's a spark plug size).
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    So I ordered the cheapest 306 boss kit off eBay - $20. It matches the splines in my 1995 405 (secured by a nut). The post which flicks the indicator cancel was too long for the wheel to turn, as it was fouling the plastic surround of the steering column. The rubber/plastic cover for the 306 boss is too large to fit into this plastic surround, so I simply removed it. The post on the boss adaptor needed about 1cm cut off to turn freely. The post is also too far into the centre, so it needs to be extended another 8mm or so for the auto-cancel indicators to work.

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    And here's my 405 with a 1987 Luisi steering wheel mounted.
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    I bought a 405 Mi16 leather steering wheel to go on my S1 505. It fits the splines, might be a little bit shorter, so sits closer to the dash, and appears to have no indicator cancelling post. I'll figure something out when I run out of other more interesting jobs to do.
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    206 GTi 180 - '804 Cat Cams, Jenvey DBW 48mm ITB's, AT Power Dry Sump, Emtron KV8 ECU, HP Electronik PDM, AIM MXS Dash, Custom Wiring Harness. AST Camber Tops & Coilovers, -2deg camber hubs by Frogstomp Racing, 24mm Torsion Bars, AP Racing brakes, Custom Radiator and Oil cooler, 3J Plate LSD, E85.

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    Nürburgring - 10:23.ish (Fiesta ST)

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