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    Default A negative view of PSA/Ford/etcHDi diesels.

    Hi I found these comment by accident searching for boat conversions for another thread. I make no comments for or against this guys opinions. But it may be useful to read for background information Jaahn
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    G'day,

    well, that's dealt with half the market for small diesels.... !! what's left ? just the Koreans ?

    .....If you are owning one and the fuel consumption is somewhere around 10-16 L/100 km....


    Sounds like numbers from my old ute, BA v8, although the old fella will manage 9 point something on a trip to Melbourne and back.... Numbers like that from a tiny diesel suggest a little problem somewhere....

    Having driven a Hyundi i40 for a couple of days, I was looking at a small diesel for our next shopping cart. Hmmmm, maybe stick with petrol....

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    That bloke should join up with Cadogan. A lot of cherry-picked hot air if not outright BS lurking there.
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    All cars break down the problems that Hyundai/Kia have have been documented and South Korean gm stuff are awful. Faults picked over a 20 year run of a motor design doesnít really give a guide to actual reliability of the product.


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    I have a similar stall the engine light on when accelerating to overtake or towing in my Expert Pro van as one of the articles.
    I do the turn of/on again to temporarily fix it, but dealer can't find a fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    I have a similar stall the engine light on when accelerating to overtake or towing in my Expert Pro van as one of the articles.
    I do the turn of/on again to temporarily fix it, but dealer can't find a fault.
    Find a better dealer


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    Only one dealer in SA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Only one dealer in SA
    Find a better state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post
    Find a better state.
    Iíd have to change countries to do that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    I’d have to change countries to do that
    or drink lots???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Iíd have to change countries to do that



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    G'day,

    yep, dealers are not all the same, well, rather, it's a STAFF thing isn't it....

    We were so p***ed off with Ballarat Renault, we drove all the way the Werribee Renault for today's service call, what a difference. Renault is OK now....

    Ballarat Renault has won that many dealer awards I think it's gotten a totally swelled head, and probably a captive market, it's a BIG zone, whereas the bloke in Werribee still has to fight for his market share - and physically surrounded by all the popular makes !!

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    G'day,

    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    I have a similar stall the engine light on when accelerating to overtake or towing in my Expert Pro van as one of the articles.
    I do the turn of/on again to temporarily fix it, but dealer can't find a fault.
    and how'd you go with that ? Inside the warranty period, Ballarat Renault charged $75 for a fault it couldn't find - and the Melbourne head office didn't give a toss.

    cheers,
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    Iíve got a Ford Mondeo with a PSA 2.0 diesel engine, basically a DW10 thatís done 225000km and the only thing that let it down was the Ford dealership not changing the timing belt (and my misfortune to not be checking up on them). Iím currently rebuilding the top end and from my experience this is an excellent engine. It will be back together soon and will continue to be an excellent car and engine for many more years.

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    Wife has the petrol Mondeo and I agree, a very good car. The petrol engine is quite ordinary, but workmanlike and reliable. And has a chain... But I did seriously consider the Diesel.

    Did they claim to have changed the belt? (I presume, by signing off on the relevant book service).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey View Post
    Wife has the petrol Mondeo and I agree, a very good car. The petrol engine is quite ordinary, but workmanlike and reliable. And has a chain... But I did seriously consider the Diesel.

    Did they claim to have changed the belt? (I presume, by signing off on the relevant book service).
    Yes very good car German design Belgian built, French engine design.
    Unfortunately Ford have a timing belt service interval of 240,000km or 10yrs. After missing a logbook service (some extreme life pressure in 2017) I took the car in for a service at Aug 2018 at 220,000 11yrs and they didnít pick it up. It went back in Oct for airbag recall and three times after for repairs to items they damaged during airbag recall and for a checkup due to high fuel consumption(they couldnít find any issues with the car).
    At no stage did they alert me to fact it needed a belt change.
    So after the belt failed in Feb they said itís my fault as they assumed it has been changed at 10yrs. Then they proceeded to quote up to $9k to fix it. So itís getting specialist repair at home.
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    Jeez, $9K!!! No wonder you're having a crack at it. Sorry to hear that, and of your life issues - I know how that feels. Good luck with it.

    I've pushed it a bit with my 206 belt which I'm changing this weekend. Same reason as you...life events.


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    Yeah crazy but thatís modern day labour rates. I wasnít filled with confidence when I asked them to change the water pump with the new timing belt and the said why do that thereís nothing wrong with the pump.

    On point Ford must be damaging the long term reliability confidence with the unrealistic 240,000km timing belt interval. When checking my options for repair or replace the engine I found a lot of second hand engine dealers are doing quite a lot of changeover sales and getting back engines with failed belts. What a waste for such a good engine and car. And Ford donít even hold all the parts to complete the job properly Iíve had to import some parts from Europe.

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    Faults with power loss I’m getting regularly are
    P2563 turbo valve position copy signal value higher than setting
    P0238 turbo pressure signal short circuit to positive
    Any one have a similar problem
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    yes, getting P238 fault on 1.6 HDI in C4. Can't get any help on that either
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    Assuming it's P0238, the turbo boost air pressure sensor (ie inlet air) is at max. Possibly an open circuit.

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