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    Icon5 Timing belt how important is it to replace at the service interval i.e. 120K

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    I have a 2008 Peugeot 2.0 HDi with RHR engine and my car is at 157K. The handbook says it it should be changed at 120K, the UK hand book 160K

    How important is it to be replaced when it says?

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    What checks can be done to see the condition of it?

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    Itís 180k or nine years


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    Considering the disaster if it goes, I'd replace a 10 y.o. belt. The maker uses distance (which varies a bit between countries) and also age when recommending change intervals.
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    As advised itís overdue therefore replace belt or if prepared to take the risk replace engine


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    Hi Xlink-nz
    If you are concerned you can always take the belt covers off and visually inspect the belt and the pulleys and tensioner. I am not familiar with that engine but some cars have issues with the idler pulley coverings or the harmonic balancer rubber insert which can all be inspected. Any leaking oil seals into this area are also a problem.
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    If you don't drive the car at all, just leave it be.

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    Thank you for your replies

    I'm getting the timing belt done in 2 weeks

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    It’s 180k or nine years
    Where did you get that from ?

    Quote Originally Posted by seasink View Post
    Considering the disaster if it goes, I'd replace a 10 y.o. belt. The maker uses distance (which varies a bit between countries) and also age when recommending change intervals.
    Why does or should it vary by country?

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    I recently had the timing belt replaced in our 2007 C4 HDi with, at the time, ~145k km on it. Bill Bunting advised it was showing signs of wear and was due for replacement.

    Considering what others have suffered with breaking belts, we were lucky.
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    Why does or should it vary by country?
    The design engineer probably had in mind engine hours of a warmed up machine at modest revs with decent oil and at design operating temperature. That isn't real-world practical with non-stationary engines.

    As driving conditions commonly vary between places the local distributors have to convert this roughly to a kilometres travelled service interval, which isn't a strictly equivalent measure. In Australia the driving conditions are considered more onerous than in other places.

    The service intervals are quoted from the Australian service book issued by the distributor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xlink_nz View Post
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    Thank you for your replies

    I'm getting the timing belt done in 2 weeks



    Where did you get that from ?



    Why does or should it vary by country?
    It varies by country because operating conditions the Rhr is 180k or nine years 240 in Europe? I get that from working in the business for 20 odd years my rat box 307 went to 240k before it stuffed the gearbox and was retired anyway.


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    One thing to note some of these go to 100k for the second belt guess they canít guarantee non factory fit


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    From what I hear, never having had a problem, a similar risk might be failure of the tensioner pulley(s) not the belt. "Be sure to get them changed too" is the advice I've always been given.....

    One of our Scenics had a belt twice the recommended age and the first thing we did was a belt and pulley change. I was worried just driving it to Eurocare…..
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    David, what's the replacement schedule for the RFN in the 206GTi 138 please? It's surprising how hard it is to pin this info down!

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    It varies by country because operating conditions the Rhr is 180k or nine years 240 in Europe? I get that from working in the business for 20 odd years my rat box 307 went to 240k before it stuffed the gearbox and was retired anyway.


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    80k or 4 years


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    Cheers; I thought they'd extended it compared to the older models. I better get cracking then; I bought the parts a while back but've been too busy to do the job.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugfan306HDI View Post
    As advised it’s overdue therefore replace belt or if prepared to take the risk replace engine Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    I wish I'd thought of that wording.... Brilliant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey View Post
    Cheers; I thought they'd extended it compared to the older models. I better get cracking then; I bought the parts a while back but've been too busy to do the job.
    Priorities, Stuey. Best wishes for the Festive Season.
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    Thanks John, you too.
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    Has anyone thought that the biggest failure with these engines at 180,000 k's is the water pump
    As I have not seen a belt fail on a 2.0 Hdi if it's done within these specs with the water pump
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    Iíve seen a couple of idlers fail at around 280000 with the original belts


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    Depends on the car, but I would NOT ignore the Peugeot time or kilometre limits on this one. You are WAY over the Aus limit on kilometres; and WAY, WAY over the 8 year time limit for a 2l Peug HDi.

    I thought I was being "clever" with my much loved 1997 Peugeot 406 SD (Petrol) sedan. Had major engine repair at 230,000km after its second timing belt broke. Cost me about $3000. Thought this was cheap, until she died from un-related tranny failure two weeks later . Now have a couple of Peug 407 SVs (120,000 to 157,000 kms) on their clocks instead. Just coming to terms with apparently very well known probs. I've been driving Peug since before I got my licence in 1969. Driven in them since late dad bought our first 403 at the Peugeot motor show in 1956.

    REPLACE THE BELT NOW!!!!
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    Just what I thought myself, until I had to pay around $3000 each on 2 Peugeots after belt failure. Sad that the repair was immediately followed by another $3000 FAILURE on the 406SD. The poor old 307 2 xse litre took a bit longer to die, but was worth next to nothing when the belt went again after just 40,000kms!

    You either replace the belt, or sell the car. The other options are just for twits.Sure, if you REALLY want to you can have the belt removed, and get an expert to take a look at it. Of course it simply isn't worth putting the old one back if you follow this option.

    Belts really matter. I pooh, poohed it for a few years, and wasted a few thousand $ I couldn't afford as a result.
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    Nah, Stuey. Replace it now, my old mate! Truly! Failure to do so has killed a couple of our most loved cars!
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    FYI I had my 2.0 HDi belt (& water pump) replaced a few weeks ago

    NB: Interestingly the Tech said it wasn't looking too bad but emphasised that is no indicator that it would have lasted longer

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlink_nz View Post
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    FYI I had my 2.0 HDi belt (& water pump) replaced a few weeks ago

    NB: Interestingly the Tech said it wasn't looking too bad but emphasised that is no indicator that it would have lasted longer

    How many kl's had it done?

    Was it a genuine belt or after market?
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