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    Default Beware of Generic Flexible Brake/Clutch Hoses

    I can't get a decent brake pedal on my Pug 404 ute project car despite everything being new/reco.

    So to investigate I used 3 vice grips to clamp off the flex hoses.

    Perfect pedal.

    I release the rear: pretty good pedal.

    I release the fronts: pedal goes to the floor.

    And now a finesse: I clamp the front hoses as close as possible to the inlet. Perfect pedal.

    I clamp at the wheel cylinder end: pedal goes to the floor.

    It's not rocket science to work out what's happening!!

    The rear hose was locally made; the fronts I bought online.

    This is the last time I trust hydraulic hoses that I don't know where they are sourced.

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    And this is not the first time I've been burnt by a cheap generic. The Pug will be easy to fix.

    My previous resto was a Series 2A Land Rover.

    It had a Holden 186 powering it. Orig LR 2.25L motors are getting scarce plus it was a Geelong conversion (Johnston Engineering late of Duoro Rd Nth Geelong) so IMHO it had merit to stay as it was.

    I took the Bosch starter to a sparky to overhaul. He sold me a brand new generic unit for half the cost of overhauling the orig.

    12 months later, I hit the starter & it spun freely. I took it out & the pinion had disintegrated. No big deal ordinarily- the teeth just fall down to the bottom of the bell housing where there is a port for cleaning. BUT in this case a tooth had jammed the ring gear against the adaptor plate.

    So, I saved $50 but I had to do engine & GB out, clutch & flywheel off and re-assemble. PLUS I bought a new Bosch unit anyway!

    The moral: avoid generics unless there is evidence they are OK to use.
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    I get mine made to order at one of the good brake places in Perth. They have all the Lockheed fittings I need and the hoses are perfect - and braided stainless are available and give even better results. I did try online purchases of flexible hoses but poor results - cracked externally quite quickly.

    NOS are still available but I'd emphasise "old" in the NOS. I couldn't get a decent pedal and you could feel one of the apparently good hoses expanding under pressure. I held the hose and got someone else to press the pedal - it was quite obvious that the reinforcing had failed.
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