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    Before i get stuck into her, The wagon is struggling to to select 1st, and doesn't like to downshift to 2nd either, is "ok" through the rest of the box though.
    The clutch peddle has bugger all feel (keeping in mind im used to pug cable clutches) and the engagement point is right in the top 1/4 of the peddle.

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    I know these are notorious for mechanical wear in the peddle assembly, and leaky slaves, does this sound reminiscent of the symptoms of such? or should my attention be directed to the clutch itself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Codman View Post
    Before i get stuck into her, The wagon is struggling to to select 1st, and doesn't like to downshift to 2nd either, is "ok" through the rest of the box though.
    The clutch peddle has bugger all feel (keeping in mind im used to pug cable clutches) and the engagement point is right in the top 1/4 of the peddle.

    I know these are notorious for mechanical wear in the peddle assembly, and leaky slaves, does this sound reminiscent of the symptoms of such? or should my attention be directed to the clutch itself?
    If your wagon has the pushrod engine (XN), I would be looking at clutch actuation issues.

    If it's the OHC engine I wouldn't have a clue.

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    Thanks for the reply, however it is a 88 GTI with the OH
    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    If your wagon has the pushrod engine (XN), I would be looking at clutch actuation issues.

    If it's the OHC engine I wouldn't have a clue.
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    88' 205 GTI/16V
    92' 505 Custom Turbo Wagon
    92' 205 SI
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    04' 206 RC (GTI180)
    2 X 405 STI,
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    98' 406 Coupe
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    91' 205 SI
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    Lie underneath and get someone to push down on the pedal whilst describing how far they have pushed down. Look at the pushrod coming from the slave to see when and how far it moves.

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    Wot they said ^^

    And Robmac, the clutch/gearbox are identical between XN and Z series motors. Just a different bell housing.

    If the clutch take-up point is as high as you say it is, assuming full motion of the slave cylinder piston, I would be looking at possibly a broken finger on the clutch.

    Also don't rule out a synchro problem. Many of these are high KMs now, and particularly if they've been used a lot in the city, synchros on first and second get a beating.
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    This is a full depression, looks good to me?

    There is so much gunk under the car its impossible to see what's actually going on, so first stop is degreaser, a full service, I have a suspicion that some of that gunk may be gear fluid.
    There's no nasty noises coming from it so don't think it's been an ongoing issue, but the car hasn't been used for a little whilehttp://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5a68f444...124_221144.3gp

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    65' 404 Sedan,
    88' 205 GTI/16V
    92' 505 Custom Turbo Wagon
    92' 205 SI
    88' 505 GTI Wagon - PARTING OUT PM ME


    Gone -
    04' 206 RC (GTI180)
    2 X 405 STI,
    405 MI16
    98' 406 Coupe
    406 2l
    91' 205 SI
    306 Style,
    3 X 306 GTI6

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