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    Icon10 205 big brake kit?

    I'm after a nice brake setup for my 205 GTI.
    So far I've found:
    http://www.ecosse-peugeot.co.uk/prod...ategory=Brakes
    http://www.griff-eng.co.uk/brakes.htm

    Griff Eng:
    ₤175 - Brackets and GTi6 Cross Drilled + Grooved Discs

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    Ecosse - Peugeot:
    ₤360 - Ecosse big brake conversion std
    ₤440 - Ecosse big brake conversion fast road
    ₤875 - 4 Pot conversion
    ₤1,250 - 6 Pot conversion


    At the moment I have virtually no brakes. I'm after something that I can slam on hard and have instant stopping power.
    It's my understanding that the package from Griff Eng. is basically just a bracket/adaptor so that you can use GTi6 discs and pads, hence why it's so cheap?

    What do you guys have to say about the various ecosse kits? I'm not wanting to spend ₤1,250 (AU$3,078!) and even ₤360 is relatively expensive, but I'm sure it would pay off in the long run.

    Which of the aforementioned products would you suggest I look into, and are there any local alternatives?

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    Hispec brakes in the UK are your best bet...do a search on them. They have some great packages for the 205 and well priced too!! I have had them on alot my cars including my recent gtir with 300bhp and they work a treat...
    good quality too.
    Just remember tho dont go too big on a 205 as your rear may say hello to the front.
    Another hint too...if ordering brake discs from UK/overseas try to separate them in separate parcels. Hispec will do that for you, they are good to deal with but VERY busy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ-Studd
    I'm after a nice brake setup for my 205 GTI.
    So far I've found:
    http://www.ecosse-peugeot.co.uk/prod...ategory=Brakes
    http://www.griff-eng.co.uk/brakes.htm

    Griff Eng:
    ₤175 - Brackets and GTi6 Cross Drilled + Grooved Discs

    Ecosse - Peugeot:
    ₤360 - Ecosse big brake conversion std
    ₤440 - Ecosse big brake conversion fast road
    ₤875 - 4 Pot conversion
    ₤1,250 - 6 Pot conversion


    At the moment I have virtually no brakes. I'm after something that I can slam on hard and have instant stopping power.
    It's my understanding that the package from Griff Eng. is basically just a bracket/adaptor so that you can use GTi6 discs and pads, hence why it's so cheap?

    What do you guys have to say about the various ecosse kits? I'm not wanting to spend ₤1,250 (AU$3,078!) and even ₤360 is relatively expensive, but I'm sure it would pay off in the long run.

    Which of the aforementioned products would you suggest I look into, and are there any local alternatives?

    Cheers,
    -- DJ
    why don't you get the gear from matt and put the 406 coupe brakes on the car ???

    be cheaper than what you are looking at there
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    already been covered here
    What are possible brake swaps for a 306?

    about 1/2 way down the 1st page. the brake kit questions raised by turbopuegeot306 apply to you as well.

    Basically the kit you describe is it, but you forgot the master cylinder that must be upgraded when using the larger calipers from the 306GTi.

    Cheaper option is to overhaul your existing system, and put some high quality pads in. Perry does constant laps around wakefield, EC, Oran Park with no fading and does some respectable times at that. OEM brakes are obviously ok.
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    Autofive sell a complete big brake kit, discs adaptor plates, pads, for 15 in wheels and up http://www.autofive.co.uk/braking3.htm

    A decent set of pads and some grooved/slotted discs and uprated brake fluid make a big difference, also braided lines help making the pedal much firmer.
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    http://www.autofive.co.uk/images/picf0055.jpg

    That looks good, however I don't think that it's ₤198.50, it's each as far as I can tell.
    What else would I need to go with it? Pads...

    What kind of braking could I expect with the big brake kit + a good set of pads?
    It'll be for fast road use

    Also, excuse my lack of knowledge, but what is the advantage/difference of
    http://www.griff-eng.co.uk/gear_rods.htm (Peugeot 205 Adjustable Quick Shift and Gear Rods ₤95.00)
    over
    http://www.griff-eng.co.uk/pug.htm (Peugeot 205 Adjustable Quick Shift ₤45.00)

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    DJ have u thought about getting some nice pads and some dot 3 brake fluid... i think that should be what your looking for at a road use level anyway.

    You local mechanic will have the dot 3 brake fluid and I can put u on to a bloke for the koota pads if u like....

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    I've got a complete set of front brakes from a 406 coupe, 4 spot Brembo's 305mm discs and pads. Listed in parts for sale.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca
    DJ have u thought about getting some nice pads and some dot 3 brake fluid... i think that should be what your looking for at a road use level anyway.

    You local mechanic will have the dot 3 brake fluid and I can put u on to a bloke for the koota pads if u like....
    That'd be great if I could get the koota guy's details. While some nice pads and dot 3 brake fluid would do the job well, I'd like to go for what some might call overkill. I wonder what brakes they use on the supercars... hmm....


    Quote Originally Posted by matt205
    I've got a complete set of front brakes from a 406 coupe, 4 spot Brembo's 305mm discs and pads. Listed in parts for sale.....
    Cheers, however it's a little out of my budget.

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    DJ i don't get it

    You wanna put "overkill" brakes on (which in MHO is Matt's Brembo's, no offence Matty but it's a 205) but you don't want the "overkill" Brembo's when they're probably cheaper than getting those blokes (who don't shower) in the UK to fix you up.

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    With all these talk of brake upgrades, I hope you have tyres on the car that can do them justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pug307
    With all these talk of brake upgrades, I hope you have tyres on the car that can do them justice.
    Only FM901's on the car at the moment. Atleast they have full tread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Luca
    DJ i don't get it

    You wanna put "overkill" brakes on (which in MHO is Matt's Brembo's, no offence Matty but it's a 205) but you don't want the "overkill" Brembo's when they're probably cheaper than getting those blokes (who don't shower) in the UK to fix you up.
    If you think that the brembos would work out cheaper than importing the gear from the UK then I might have to save up for a month and a bit and hope that Matt still has them for sale. The one advantage with getting a big brake setup from the UK is that they'd fit the car with very little modification required. I'm unsure as to if it would be the same with the 406 brake setup... I'm sure it'd work out cheaper than $1800 if I were to import a brake setup though... my pocket isn't that deep

    Heck, my insurance would sky-rocket just from getting a larger brake setup

    -- DJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ-Studd
    It's my understanding that the package from Griff Eng. is basically just a bracket/adaptor so that you can use GTi6 discs and pads, hence why it's so cheap?
    Cheers,
    -- DJ
    What you're asking all depends on which model you have. You can't do much with the S1-S2 as it has 1.6L GTi brakes, hubs and driveshafts. You need to have the later S3 hubs and driveshafts before you can do anything decent. Remember that all 1.9L GTi's in the UK have the larger hubs and driveshafts. That kit retains the std. caliper but with the GTi6 discs. Those adaptor plates are used to push the out caliper to the mate with the

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT
    What you're asking all depends on which model you have. You can't do much with the S1-S2 as it has 1.6L GTi brakes, hubs and driveshafts. You need to have the later S3 hubs and driveshafts before you can do anything decent. Remember that all 1.9L GTi's in the UK have the larger hubs and driveshafts. That kit retains the std. caliper but with the GTi6 discs. Those adaptor plates are used to push the out caliper to the mate with the
    with the... goose?
    That's a pain, seeing as I have an '88 S1 1.9L GTi. What would you see my best options as being?
    I'll be needing new driveshafts in the near future anyhow, so is it possible to replace these with S3 driveshafts? Also, the same with the hubs? How much do you think I'd be looking at to purchase these new parts?

    Cheers

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    Did i mention above what u're best option was?

    I believe i did!

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    For a start insurance shouldn't change as long as the new brakes are no worse than the previous ones....official word at the time was as long as it doesn't improve performance (well not technically) and safety isn't reduced then it's fine, was the same with my roll cage, of course check with insurance yourself to make sure.

    I too can recommend hi-spec, had one of their 315mm wilwood packages on the 405.

    Can I ask what engine mods you've got planned to warrant the major brake upgrade?
    You do realise you'll need 16" wheels dont you if you fit Matt's or any other 300mm+ kit???

    If you're leaving the motor stock why not just start with better pads and see how you go or look at fitting GTi6 brakes but you'll need 15's then.
    I assume you've got 14" wheels on yours.

    As for Griff-eng, didnt know they did brakes.
    Ecosse are great guys to deal with and plenty of knowledge but pricey when you shop around for some things others also sell.

    Or try race brakes in nth melb and see what they can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca
    Did i mention above what u're best option was?

    I believe i did!
    Which, the brembo or the dot 3 + koota pads?

    Ah well, I'll wait for PeterT's response and see where things head from there

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    Well,
    I've got a set of 266mm discs, calipers & 22.2mm m/cylinder off a Series 1 Mi16.

    Should work a treat on a 900kg 205

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    Will they bolt straight on to the 205?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca
    Will they bolt straight on to the 205?

    AFAIK-Yep!
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    How much?

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    Likewise, how much (inc post to Dandenong South or Cockatoo, which ever is cheaper)?

    (If they bolt on to the 205 with no mods)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ-Studd
    Likewise, how much (inc post to Dandenong South or Cockatoo, which ever is cheaper)?

    (If they bolt on to the 205 with no mods)

    -- DJ

    he's in the east anyway, go pick them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreas
    he's in the east anyway, go pick them up.
    I might just have to do that, then... if I do buy them
    *waits on price*

    What pads should I run with the 405 setup?
    -- DJ

    Edit: They'd fit on the 14" alloys, wouldn't they?
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    How does $225 the lot sound with std discs, or $300 with EBC slotted & grooved discs? (you'll need to re-face either set of discs).

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