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    Default 17" wheels in 3x150mm

    I have been looking for 17x8" and 17x10" wheels for a 3 stud 1500mm PCD
    wheel. I currently have 15x8" & 15x10" on my Alpine, but no-one makes
    competition (or even decent road) tyres to fit 15x10". Looking at the road
    and competition tyres I'd like to use, it seems that 17" gives me an excellent
    choice of tyres for both the 8" & 10" widths. I can also get 40 series tyres
    that end up being within 2 or 3% of my current rolling circumference which
    is good too...

    None of the normal manufacturers make 17" wheels for this stud pattern.

    The only aftermarket Aussie wheel is the 16x8" superlite from performance Wheels in Adelaide.

    As far as I can tell, none of the Euro manufacturers make them either
    (I've checked PLS wheels (I have the Nogano model) & Mechaparts.com)

    I can get custom wheels made up (I've found a few places willing to do them)
    but I thought I'd check if any others have found solutions to the 3-stud
    problem?

    I have considered adapters, and I am leaning towards doing that.

    Any thoughts or advice?

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    neales wheel in sydney has made 3 stud wheels for pugs in alloy in the past and there is also clarks wheel service as well that has made 3 stud pug wheels in steel

    what the PCD for the pugs off hand though i'm not sure but i know ren don't fit pugs

    but that gives you an idea an where to hunt if that helps
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    I know chipper (brendan chipperfield) got blank alloys without holes, and speedy wheels (i think) in brisso custom drilled them for him. I also know that Simmons will do custom centres for you..

    Those are probably your best bet

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    Quote Originally Posted by AxGT
    I know chipper (brendan chipperfield) got blank alloys without holes, and speedy wheels (i think) in brisso custom drilled them for him. I also know that Simmons will do custom centres for you..

    Those are probably your best bet

    Ken
    Well, Simmons said no,

    "Dear Sir,
    Unfortunately we do not have a wheel available to suit 3 on 150mm
    PCD. There would probably be a specialist in the UK who could help. Try
    english Motorsport magazine.

    Regards Simmons Wheel"

    as did Mullins, Dragway, ROH, Speedy Wheels.

    Performance Wheels said:

    "We only make one wheel in a 3 stud pattern and that is a 15x6 Superlite."

    I found a few places that would make custom 3 piece wheels:

    * Team Billet Racing (NSW) (approx $3700 for 2 17x8, 2 17x10)
    * Arrow Wheels (NZ) (17x8" NZ$770+ ea & 17x 10" NZ$830+ea plus setup)
    * Braid Wheels (Spain) (8x17" 418 euro ea, 10x17" 430 euro ea plus setup)

    Braid and Arrow Wheels have the disadvantage of freight and customs.

    My only concern is that if I damage a wheel (and since I plan to use
    the car in competition that is a possibility), it will be a major hassle
    and delay (approx 12 weeks) to get a replacement.

    That is why I'm thinking of an adaptor - bolts onto my 150x3 hubs and
    provides say 108x5 studs so that I can go buy "off the shelf" wheels
    instead of customs.

    Mike
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    Careful with adaptors mate.
    I know Motorsport NZ will not allow them for competion. May pay to check the regs in Aussie.

    Ross

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross
    Careful with adaptors mate.
    I know Motorsport NZ will not allow them for competion. May pay to check the regs in Aussie.

    Ross
    OK, since I plan to do Targa NZ in 2005, it looks like I'll need the custom
    wheels even if CAMS allow adaptors...

    I might still do adaptor for the road wheels tho' since they are legal
    and I still need 17" wheels for a choice of decent road rubber.

    Thanks for the info Ross!

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    Great to hear you plan to do Targa.

    I have been the only Renault in the last 2 targas so it will be nice to see another Renault competing.
    Im not sure if I will be doing Targa in 2005 as I am planning a total rebuild of the Dauphine.
    However if you require a hand over this side, service crew, accomodation, transport etc please let me know, I and a couple of mates would be only too glad to help, and we know the ropes.

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    It may be easier and cheaper to change the hubs to suit the wheels instead of the other way around. Is there room on the hub for drilling say a 4 bolt pattern in a common PCD?
    Even if you have to get custom hubs (or graft something from another reno) made up, it will give you access to "cheap" wheels for replacing damaged ones which has to make a differance in the long run, on top of cheaper wheels to start with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross
    Great to hear you plan to do Targa.

    I have been the only Renault in the last 2 targas so it will be nice to see another Renault competing.
    Im not sure if I will be doing Targa in 2005 as I am planning a total rebuild of the Dauphine.
    However if you require a hand over this side, service crew, accomodation, transport etc please let me know, I and a couple of mates would be only too glad to help, and we know the ropes.

    Ross
    Thanks Ross! It will be great to have some Renault locals available to
    help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haakon
    It may be easier and cheaper to change the hubs to suit the wheels instead of the other way around. Is there room on the hub for drilling say a 4 bolt pattern in a common PCD?
    Even if you have to get custom hubs (or graft something from another reno) made up, it will give you access to "cheap" wheels for replacing damaged ones which has to make a differance in the long run, on top of cheaper wheels to start with.
    Yeah, I got Colin Stark at Alpine Affaire to have a look to see if he could
    fit the later Alpine hubs (4 stud, and a better brake system to boot), but
    it wasn't going to be easy to do. He thought it would be easier to go with
    my adaptor plan.

    I'll take a look and see if I can find any other hubs that might work...

    I feel a pick-a-part day coming on...

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    A bloke I know has a A310 4 cylinder car he is preparing for racing (with toyota quad throttle bodies and a Wolf ECU) has 4 stud wheels, with what I would swear are Pug 504/505 front hubs. He has adaptors to use Simmons alloys, but is looking at better options. He logs on here as Alby - maybe you guys should join forces and get a "bulk" deal on custom hubs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haakon
    A bloke I know has a A310 4 cylinder car he is preparing for racing (with toyota quad throttle bodies and a Wolf ECU) has 4 stud wheels, with what I would swear are Pug 504/505 front hubs. He has adaptors to use Simmons alloys, but is looking at better options. He logs on here as Alby - maybe you guys should join forces and get a "bulk" deal on custom hubs?
    Great lead! Thanks. I'll send Alby a note.

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