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    What is the best way of bracing an engine from torquing too much?

    To use an engine-to-chassis brace or to fit much stiffer engine mount bushes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbopeugeot306
    What is the best way of bracing an engine from torquing too much?

    To use an engine-to-chassis brace or to fit much stiffer engine mount bushes?

    I am assuming the pug engine is not a stressed member and therefore should not be used as one, so i would go for stiffer/stronger bushes.
    Besides the engine mods (impressize power btw) what else have you done?? and what do you want from the car ie primarily straight line?? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbopeugeot306
    What is the best way of bracing an engine from torquing too much?

    To use an engine-to-chassis brace or to fit much stiffer engine mount bushes?
    fit solid bushes - available from pugspares.co.uk. 205/306/309/405 they're all the same bush!

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbopeugeot306
    What is the best way of bracing an engine from torquing too much?
    Gaffa tape its mouth.

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    lol, nice one Brad

    Winnie, go to www.cardomain.com/id/turbopeugeot306
    Too long to list

    As for what i want out of it,

    a little bit better on corners (some swaybars and strut brace)

    A little more stopping power, im trying to find out what brakes from other cars i can fit

    And finally to have some thrilling straight line power... need to find some injectors

    I need to find out how the hell to get the 306 wide body kit over here....


    After that im happy
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    LSD if you don't have one already might be nice to squeeze into the budget.
    Upspeced shocks are good but it is probably worth the effort to put some quality stiffer springs in it also. Stiffer isn't always better, but i'm pretty confident wouldn't have limited their market by putting a harsh / less compromising setup in their factory standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbopeugeot306
    lol, nice one Brad

    Winnie, go to www.cardomain.com/id/turbopeugeot306
    Too long to list

    As for what i want out of it,

    a little bit better on corners (some swaybars and strut brace)

    A little more stopping power, im trying to find out what brakes from other cars i can fit

    And finally to have some thrilling straight line power... need to find some injectors

    I need to find out how the hell to get the 306 wide body kit over here....


    After that im happy

    sounds like you need either a GTi-6 or S16 front end in the car
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbopeugeot306
    What is the best way of bracing an engine from torquing too much?

    To use an engine-to-chassis brace or to fit much stiffer engine mount bushes?
    You need one of these. $150 + P&P. That includes pressing of the new bush into the bracket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT
    You need one of these. $150 + P&P. That includes pressing of the new bush into the bracket.
    Or you can just buy the bush and have your local mechanic press it in for you with a hydraulic ram and silicone spray (lubricant) for free.

    $150 is a bit pricey...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad
    Gaffa tape its mouth.

    Sorry, couldn't help myself.
    Hmmm not funny & you're also not very australian...

    USE ZIP TIES!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 205 GTI16
    Or you can just buy the bush and have your local mechanic press it in for you with a hydraulic ram and silicone spray (lubricant) for free.

    $150 is a bit pricey...
    Good luck then. When you factor in tooling costs to get the mould made, travel time, time off the road, time getting it pressed in/out (if someone does this for free).......

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    PeterT, can you get a hold of them, or know of a place where i can get them in Australia, otherwise i have to get them from the UK site

    They have a rally group-n and group-a mount kits.... which one, as i need it stiff but its still a road car
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    So pete whats the difference between the ones you showed and these?

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    Oh, and is it possible to unbolt the engine and leave everything connected, just slipping these under and bolting on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbopeugeot306
    So pete whats the difference between the ones you showed and these?
    Not much. Mine are a fraction harder. I can only supply the bottom and top right mounts though. They're not hard to replace if you do them one at a time. The RH driveshaft needs to be removed, and gearbox oil drained, to replace the bottom mount. The engine needs to be support with a jack to do the other two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbopeugeot306
    What is the best way of bracing an engine from torquing too much?
    Shove a sock in its mouth

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    So do i need any other mounts or are the bottom and top right mounts good to do the job?

    So the engine just needs to be hung in an engine crane? Nothing other than the RH driveshaft needs to be removed?

    Whats with draining the gearbox oil and whats a good replacement oil?
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    [QUOTE=turbopeugeot306]
    So do i need any other mounts or are the bottom and top right mounts good to do the job? That's all you need. Those two work the hardest.

    So the engine just needs to be hung in an engine crane? No, just jack it up underneath with a trolley jack (or similar). No jacking required for the bottom mount. The motor will swing/hang on the other two mounts.

    Nothing other than the RH driveshaft needs to be removed? Correct, but you'll need big tools to undo the axle nut.

    Whats with draining the gearbox oil and whats a good replacement oil?
    The oil drains on to the floor when you remove the shaft. Drain into a clean bucket then tip it back in.

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    Thats what i love about aussiefrogs, you cant get good info. like that everywhere

    Cheers pete

    So how much do you want for them posted to Adelaide, and how soon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbopeugeot306
    Thats what i love about aussiefrogs, you cant get good info. like that everywhere

    Cheers pete

    So how much do you want for them posted to Adelaide, and how soon?
    Bottom one is available now, I'll have to check on the top. Probably mid next week. I'll get back to you with firm prices and dates.

    You'll need to send me your bottom and top mounts after, whether they're in pieces or not.

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    No probs, post the prices and details on here asap
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbopeugeot306
    Thats what i love about aussiefrogs, you cant get good info like that everywhere
    Actually, most people who work on their Pugs could have told you that.

    That info is one of the first things you'd learn if you had read the Haynes manual for your 306. The manuals only cost about AUD$50 and I personally recommend every owner of 205, 306, 405 etc buy one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbopeugeot306
    No probs, post the prices and details on here asap
    PeterT might respond quicker if you say "please"...

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